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[AE] 塞班岛攻略，自娱自乐,本档结束。

本帖最后由 ak49 于 2011-8-10 21:17 编辑 : T6 r  p' C! K0 W, v! Q
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有点郁闷了，我在tinian起飞了40多架pb4y-1,b-24j轰炸saiban岛的日军地面部队，战果太小，不知道怎么好了。4 L9 F; p/ |) x, i- ?( l
  用侦察机不停的侦查，saibai岛的DL是9/15，tinian岛上有空军HQ2个，5级的机场。空军支援都是多多的。
  6000米设定高度炸伤4个鬼子，后来烦了改成100米轰炸加机炮扫射，只伤11个鬼子，就是用砸蛋也不是死这点人吧，飞100米低空还损失一个b24。4 S: W/ F+ }' c/ K
那个weik岛上的日军怎么一轰炸就死几百呢？连火炮也炸毁，weilk岛上的日军我完全是轰炸光了再派人上去的，怎么用到轰炸saiban 岛就不行了呢？
我现在把saipan岛上日军兵力说一下：
troop56020    guns312    afvs235$ F0 T" a, s2 {. s( J- Y$ a6 }
部队人数和火炮，这个我们都知道，我现在忘了afvs235代表啥意思了，大家看看中文版里这里afvs是啥意思。告诉我。3 v. @* \, b. x
我现在考虑到难道是机场5级的原因吗？非要到7级？也不会呀，我轰炸weik岛也是4，5级机场起飞了啊，炸的蛮好啊。/ x3 m2 z/ W5 |& Y+ Q, X3 t
我是哪个环节没有注意还是怎么，大家看见了告诉我吧，多谢，等着啊。9 W9 M& A5 f5 X4 Q: ~: T
我玩的是AE1108里的44年5月1日开始的小剧本---夺取塞班战役。急死了

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你先去买点军事类书籍补补课再说吧

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ak49

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你要是知道就说嘛，估计也就是一句话的问题。: Q' z# h1 ~9 B5 W: o5 I- X
我来吆喝一下，走过路过的大大，知道怎么解决问题的就指点一下，不知道的就顶一下。多谢。

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WITP二年突击勋章汉化表彰(二等宝鼎勋章)

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发表于 2011-8-9 09:57 | 只看该作者

AFV是装甲车辆
看过风语者米?!看过就不该奇怪了

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你先去买点军事类书籍补补课再说吧- G4 A7 X$ G- x6 Q! q$ H) H
kesselring 发表于 2011-8-8 22:18

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对的，要不然就又是一个戈林，空军足以歼敌了

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ak49

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点击不少，回答没有，我就不知道了，是你们不知道怎么回答呢还是我的问题太简单你们不想回答。( a" j0 T" T& `% [
在没有解决问题前，我还是不指望空军的轰炸了，调兵直接抢滩登陆算了。

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如果按照实际数据，塞班岛的地形不利于飞机轰炸和舰炮攻击。 & S( \) n( {/ k l4 x
该岛面积比较大，山峰、沟壑多，还有很多岩洞。1 }/ x: C+ z. ~3 M' j6 J3 t6 C
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优势部队登陆好了。你要么战舰列先炮击一段时间，看看效果。

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ak49

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banian君说的该岛面积比较大，山峰、沟壑多，还有很多岩洞。这个很有用，我估计就是这个造成轰炸效果不好的原因了，我提问就是怕我轰炸时忽略了啥，果真是地形的原因的话那就只有登陆了，我现在的抢滩的部队马上就快到塞班岛了。塞班岛上有57000日军估计战斗得要慢慢熬啊。多谢banian君的回答。

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在我盟军强大的火力面前，塞班岛上的57000日军节节败退，今天是44年12月31日，经过数日的激烈战斗，盟军夺取了塞班岛，鬼子的防御工事从一开始的5级被盟军工兵拆毁到0级，5万多缺乏补给的鬼子逃进老林。# {) U+ r0 f) f- D2 W) U9 Q7 i
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round combat at Saipan (108,93)) F; Q* _3 H0 _1 t( f/ W

Allied Shock attack) z. O1 Y( H3 c1 o6 [$ |% G) W
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Attacking force 53562 troops, 1147 guns, 1136 vehicles, Assault Value = 2116$ \1 T: e& o" j# ]* {' R
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Defending force 29344 troops, 272 guns, 208 vehicles, Assault Value = 6551 u* S! l. r/ N
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Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Allied adjusted assault: 1870 * z: H: s" Y0 I: u' U

Japanese adjusted defense: 325 8 {2 O7 t. @' t" |$ @

Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0)
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Allied forces CAPTURE Saipan !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)3 I) H! Y+ u9 b% g
Attacker: shock(+)# d2 U1 P; \( e! q/ e0 i- T1 g' U

Japanese ground losses:- e1 t. A: {: I% {, [
   4881 casualties reported: W+ p9 t* g6 h6 Q; L- D6 R! i: `- ~
      Squads: 19 destroyed, 67 disabled/ C3 Z- P; V( c1 h
      Non Combat: 124 destroyed, 184 disabled- T0 M* r5 d; i0 R- S: v
      Engineers: 155 destroyed, 1 disabled
   Guns lost 63 (62 destroyed, 1 disabled): F9 t+ p* l3 g8 I, n
   Vehicles lost 146 (146 destroyed, 0 disabled)0 k- v: q6 N6 _
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Allied ground losses:8 h% K5 x2 a# N* O
   3357 casualties reported
      Squads: 7 destroyed, 170 disabled
      Non Combat: 29 destroyed, 365 disabled5 O) J4 p1 }  ?. y6 N, o
      Engineers: 1 destroyed, 21 disabled
   Vehicles lost 111 (25 destroyed, 86 disabled)

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Assaulting units:( s) {' m* A! B' I. y* W
6th Marine Regiment  H* G. y( g9 I% C
25th Marine Regiment  N+ ]8 n) p7 N( k* n
98th Infantry Division
77th Infantry Division# D3 n" V6 Z( C( D/ \! j2 U! k
1st USMC Tank Battalion
24th Marine Regiment; r/ ?: S% m3 Y! w7 `# w- g
3rd Marine Division; m4 ~: B/ A. x6 f
23rd Marine Regiment  ~. `& T, `# L, X) l8 O7 h
708th Amphib Tank Battalion  v* ^6 @* z, Y0 f2 z4 W, l
111th Regimental Combat Team* x5 z1 L  o, x7 }4 n8 I1 p
706th Tank Battalion) K# d( w, L! C. {
2nd Marine Regiment
V US Amphib Corps
III US Amphib Corps! N) j- |1 x1 j& x. F
225th Artillery Grp . L5 O5 K0 \1 j) t7 b' a
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Defending units:
55th Naval Guard Unit, j$ R' q. Y, [  ]; Z/ M
Yokosuka 1st SNLF
47th Ind.Mixed Brigade; h3 t/ [1 h& ?. b6 W
9th Tank Regiment8 Q, \% R0 \: s  [! n% c3 r) \
11th Ind. Engineer Regiment
Saipan Naval Fortress
43rd Division& ]0 i( `) f9 E2 V' e. _" v
41st Naval Guard Unit
3/4th Indpt Tank Co 5 {4 V1 P9 q( V
III./9th Infantry Battalion: \: Z7 T: K$ ~
150th Infantry Regiment
28th Ind.Mixed Brigade" Y4 v4 h( Z7 z8 @5 W% h$ f! `
16th Shipping Engineer Regiment9 r# s! V2 w4 E% g
5th Special Base Force! O- f! c4 ?# F0 k( B6 T; M
31st Army
7th Ind. Engineer Regiment2 X: z+ b0 o8 V: g) X, g! S6 E
25th Field AA Machinecannon Company. y+ V0 L( J9 J  s
10th JNAF AF Unit - T9 I5 O- e# ^, e1 e

塞班岛战役比我想象的要简单，我估计每天40多架重轰在鬼子头上下蛋蛋，虽然没有弄死几个人，但是对鬼子的士气估计有巨大的影响。

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RE:塞班岛被我盟军占领了，下一步就是清剿岛上的日军残部了。

塞班岛被我盟军占领了，下一步就是清剿岛上的日军残部了。

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  今天是45年1月2日，盟军修整了2天，今天发动猛攻。$ H8 I' G5 b& v& u! ~) C& _
Ground combat at Saipan (108,93)7 O' g$ c1 E; s; x$ Q' H+ S3 r
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Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 52097 troops, 1148 guns, 1121 vehicles, Assault Value = 2042

Defending force 24884 troops, 208 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 530
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Allied adjusted assault: 1418

Japanese adjusted defense: 157 & c' l4 S* s1 V' ]: N( M7 c# q
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Allied assault odds: 9 to 1 : g7 E! l/ ?2 Z4 D" z" k. [: t
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Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
   5054 casualties reported* g0 ?. s: N# p
      Squads: 153 destroyed, 28 disabled% o8 V; t1 z1 E
      Non Combat: 261 destroyed, 79 disabled; H* P0 L8 ?0 A9 a
      Engineers: 4 destroyed, 25 disabled
   Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)' j/ X5 K& w# }2 P4 [0 U% A/ [2 z% Z
   Vehicles lost 20 (16 destroyed, 4 disabled)
   Units destroyed 2
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Allied ground losses:7 ~* H/ ^# z: x
   1837 casualties reported0 Z* R& b: W( x% u
      Squads: 9 destroyed, 111 disabled
      Non Combat: 27 destroyed, 208 disabled' \4 x* i2 X# V) r& g
      Engineers: 1 destroyed, 30 disabled3 s; Z+ q, z$ X9 T& w
   Vehicles lost 76 (19 destroyed, 57 disabled)
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Assaulting units:5 a$ ~) h8 ]6 G% T
3rd Marine Division
111th Regimental Combat Team- t  c% ^8 [0 ?$ P! B) c! f
77th Infantry Division% o3 A, E: v- P; h
23rd Marine Regiment
98th Infantry Division6 W! s6 \8 {& N
25th Marine Regiment6 L% I0 T1 n+ w  F# B
24th Marine Regiment
708th Amphib Tank Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion6 ]# H8 g6 p! u5 x$ |7 a  G- d
706th Tank Battalion$ m1 Q/ W5 }$ g1 ?
6th Marine Regiment' a& k$ X' Y! c  H0 o% r# |
2nd Marine Regiment2 O) H) ?+ d3 q" H$ Y  G
225th Artillery Grp + m& A9 ?( p  \1 S4 _9 I
V US Amphib Corps% U0 m0 Z, q5 `. l0 d% i# B
III US Amphib Corps: f* s. W7 s& ?
109th USN Naval Construction Battalion9 j7 y4 Q: ?7 Q* ^+ L' H* t' e

Defending units:
150th Infantry Regiment3 m2 f, P" `" q. S
41st Naval Guard Unit
9th Tank Regiment
III./9th Infantry Battalion
Saipan Naval Fortress$ h% O) K) e# S' E! c. B8 O$ ^
55th Naval Guard Unit
43rd Division
3/4th Indpt Tank Co / c& h2 y! x6 ^: ?; _* T; P2 n
11th Ind. Engineer Regiment4 s0 @, }3 V9 P" v; S
Yokosuka 1st SNLF
47th Ind.Mixed Brigade; T. I7 W4 t4 H; _3 k
28th Ind.Mixed Brigade( ~+ {. t8 e& t% C* l* i
31st Army* M( d( K6 H; G
25th Field AA Machinecannon Company0 a# g! I1 a* l* y9 |, C- r6 C
7th Ind. Engineer Regiment; |3 G  Q% k( g. L6 `' v/ Y7 @
5th Special Base Force- f5 J4 }+ Z* m1 [& {, q
16th Shipping Engineer Regiment# x" Z8 t3 H, s. G, ]
10th JNAF AF Unit
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  看来鬼子缺失补给后，战斗力弱了许多啊。
今天第一次用AE给舰队补给AA弹，很顺利，蛮高兴。看来只要是到了45年就可以使用AE军火船了。; h5 Z% R8 p$ J1 _* \

我先发帖询问空袭效果，现在我明白了，先日军躲在5级的防御工事里，我空袭效果很差，现在日军被我盟军赶到野地里了，现在空袭效果好多了。Morning Air attack on 47th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 108,93 (Saipan); d- w. S6 y# U
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Weather in hex: Light cloud3 k  m2 C2 A  H+ z! T9 e' f  M
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Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.  h% |( _6 [$ I3 c
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft2 m1 L- q3 l5 F( X) j9 F, [9 v  O5 B, [
   A6M2 Sen Baku x 11
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Allied aircraft# q0 u9 ?9 B5 f. @
   B-24J Liberator x 9/ ?0 B0 X+ y; B
   F4U-1 Corsair x 27
   F6F-3 Hellcat x 59
   PB4Y-1 Liberator x 21

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Japanese aircraft losses
   A6M2 Sen Baku: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses) r* X( A3 M& a& y4 E# ~
   B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
   PB4Y-1 Liberator: 2 damaged
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Japanese ground losses:3 {, H2 S" @) u/ ?
   60 casualties reported
      Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
      Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
      Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Morning Air attack on 5th Special Base Force, at 108,93 (Saipan)& b9 G" v* a6 ?* g, H
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Weather in hex: Light cloud$ t- Z# O+ r: k- O6 ?0 O. u& J

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet., I# B$ c9 h7 l
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes- ?$ q" B) r' M" F
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Japanese aircraft
   A6M2 Sen Baku x 3( B) w8 {8 Q' F- ?" ]
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Allied aircraft. ?' ^" O. _& ]  b: F
   B-24J Liberator x 11
   F6F-3 Hellcat x 531 k) B7 }& H: d4 @( K4 m

Japanese aircraft losses6 u( x; y5 D* Y) @1 o) ]. J- U
   A6M2 Sen Baku: 1 destroyed1 w" x2 N$ m/ o6 i* ?: H8 N$ g

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
   23 casualties reported
      Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
      Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

两次空袭造成日军83人受伤，以前就伤几个人是天壤之别啊。

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ak49

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咋修改帖子的标题，我看见大猫和酷猪和我打时候帖子标题根据战况随时可以修改的，怎么弄？

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自己明白了，

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嘿嘿

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12日，攻击。
Ground combat at Saipan (108,93)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 64554 troops, 1359 guns, 1387 vehicles, Assault Value = 2525

Defending force 10360 troops, 139 guns, 37 vehicles, Assault Value = 52
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Allied adjusted assault: 1801
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Japanese adjusted defense: 3 9 \/ U0 m, N& ?& {5 _( b- p

Allied assault odds: 600 to 1
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Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)0 u% z0 [! f  Z) f- j) i
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)( Z* `/ k# N% k: V( K' _- Q" A

Japanese ground losses:
   12353 casualties reported5 R: L9 D  a$ q8 r
      Squads: 194 destroyed, 5 disabled
      Non Combat: 1028 destroyed, 47 disabled& a' ^3 G$ {6 @
      Engineers: 55 destroyed, 4 disabled7 D# `0 J: M) t8 F
   Guns lost 175 (175 destroyed, 0 disabled)' v* f3 f( X' R: G2 r. Q( c: p* p
   Vehicles lost 38 (38 destroyed, 0 disabled)
   Units destroyed 9- S6 e  ^4 h* r/ D; l. _* ]" B

13日盟军休整一天。! h2 u( S- O6 O
14日最后的攻击开始了。Ground combat at Saipan (108,93)6 O/ D4 \. R. F; A

Allied Shock attack( s9 H" v% M0 ?( T3 G

Attacking force 65140 troops, 1359 guns, 1389 vehicles, Assault Value = 2562* k, r1 k1 L3 E1 K8 t; R! U

Defending force 1482 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7
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Allied adjusted assault: 3086
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Japanese adjusted defense: 1
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Allied assault odds: 3086 to 1
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Combat modifiers0 S' _; [, c3 S( ]3 S% n8 l: |- X+ x
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), experience(-)3 k5 b, q- {$ p) r
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)' O# O+ z: H6 t0 G. X3 H

Japanese ground losses:
   1867 casualties reported
      Squads: 28 destroyed, 0 disabled6 `" k+ J- X" n! ]" N# J# A" u0 n
      Non Combat: 214 destroyed, 0 disabled( {# k7 n* h; E# y
      Engineers: 12 destroyed, 0 disabled. t6 M: Y( V) ^/ T
   Guns lost 17 (17 destroyed, 0 disabled)% x! J0 v$ j2 L- s2 R6 X4 U! K* s. b
   Units destroyed 1
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Allied ground losses:* c2 }1 U0 d% b2 c& n' E1 ~
   7 casualties reported$ Q$ x4 c# `$ z/ A0 L
      Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
      Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled1 ?1 H, ]. d$ I1 k' v

到现在为止，塞班岛的日军全部消灭了，本档也结束了。
最后祝大家玩的开心。最后点数是6800:1200盟军大胜

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