原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-1 09:49 发表
怎么区分胜败?算总分吗?/ {# H, N7 }. @; L; T
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豹子最好战绩就是打下印度和中国,不知道有没有人连这个地方都丢了还会继续打下去![]()
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原帖由 浆糊 于 2006-12-6 17:37 发表
楼上的推荐几个精彩战报的链接吧,我等去拜读一下![]()
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-6 22:44 发表' x% c M0 g" _( w E
PzB的战报的确太长了,现在是119页,而且多数都是他对战斗的总结。能坚持打到44年的的确很少。% r) p4 Z" s: g, @& A. {# M
值得注意的是PzB也在42年8月打下了卡拉奇,虽然解除了印度方面的威胁,但美军仍然在44年10月就打回了马来半岛, ...
原帖由 逍遥 于 2006-12-6 19:14 发表
PzB的战报里面有几个很奇怪的地方。4 [ P2 B9 o! `5 s( W& B# M
他的KB似乎损失很重,而美军的航母好像没有受到太大的杀伤。
还有一个,他提到美军的BB只剩了10艘左右,这个也不知道具体的情况。+ s0 Q# B4 B# P; R
战报太长了,找不到战斗的详细情况。 ...
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/26/43 1 L" R; k m) C4 a* c# n' R
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TF 1162 encounters mine field at Darwin (36,84)
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Allied Ships
MSW Cromer ( `, J3 I* @' K" n' D6 _) r- |( \
MSW Goulburn - j u5 A% M. Q* o" N
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ASW attack at 37,69
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Japanese Ships % o, g3 X4 t+ \
PC Ch 22 " e8 H1 R$ T. u( q8 y
PC Ch 20 0 p# Z% D% e: v1 a
PG Taiko Maru
PG Shosei Maru
PG Seiko Maru
PG Keiko Maru 5 w9 w$ P9 A$ U
PG Aso Maru , M& h& V: @3 @% S3 e0 x8 ]8 a
PG Tamo Maru #7
Allied Ships - @# i8 ]( L4 k/ l, G
SS O23 3 | ^8 }: @& q4 G7 o4 y0 W+ }" }
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Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78 9 B. N) b& A7 x0 g
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Allied aircraft 6 p2 y5 G8 K6 ?0 @/ }( D" Q
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3 1 @1 ?9 X+ ?- {6 m1 p, r% t
F-5A Lightning x 2
B-25J Mitchell x 135
Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 9 damaged
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Japanese ground losses:
163 casualties reported 4 q7 X2 X4 J! W, f5 `8 `
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3 / z/ E* ~# H4 h' x! ^
Runway hits 126
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Aircraft Attacking: 9 r& s- m! r1 u1 G- ]7 U
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet & X* ]3 q6 E# g
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
16 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
24 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
10 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet * j) [, F, v* |1 x% S
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet / V' { V9 ?( G: b/ a
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ( y" n5 ]$ C* W; s! _9 m& O
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet / b: G/ ^- F6 p7 z& _
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ) f$ o1 }: G: s- ~( |- o3 H) S
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53 % Q* T; W" g; S4 o) h! U4 l" E
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Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 54 ; y. o# I7 g# T: u' y1 q
A6M5c Zeke x 47 + f9 @& p5 P; }( j0 @1 V
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No Japanese losses
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Runway hits 30 % U8 g9 {% C, D5 q9 d
Aircraft Attacking:
27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 2 J) X+ m' r! A! b
27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet & @, ^; e9 v/ d2 \
47 x A6M5c Zeke bombing at 2000 feet % h1 `# M1 L/ n$ A
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 6 e! M8 [7 X8 j( o" A
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Japanese aircraft ! `$ r0 c/ i0 b6 B- v1 |! [$ k
A6M5 Zeke x 84 " M1 ?2 z1 } @+ F4 D( o$ v
D3A Val x 98
D4Y Judy x 95 @8 z/ S5 Q2 Q) a: D$ o
B5N Kate x 129 8 u$ P, L* R6 K% k) u, y1 o5 H& z3 X
B6N Jill x 47
Allied aircraft 5 c" G6 D! d5 N3 s. ~7 }& E' E
F6F Hellcat x 147
Corsair IV x 24
Japanese aircraft losses : M+ c. ?7 L) K k
A6M5 Zeke: 84 destroyed
D3A Val: 73 destroyed + H7 } I7 Q9 u
D4Y Judy: 72 destroyed p! x! H. w# b4 C0 z" `! u
B5N Kate: 106 destroyed ! @2 N! C$ }! o- s) [6 e5 ?
B6N Jill: 40 destroyed + [7 b$ h; t. e5 [
Allied aircraft losses * C2 k' O4 z! r. z/ N, M
F6F Hellcat: 27 destroyed, 10 damaged
Corsair IV: 1 damaged ( C( Y+ {( f: u/ X( t/ m, G& m# _5 I
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Allied Ships
CVL Cabot
CV Illustrious, Bomb hits 1 2 \' u0 K' s2 t# [0 P1 @2 d
CV Formidable $ F0 H9 n. K: c9 K5 L
CVL Langley
CLAA San Diego
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Aircraft Attacking: 6 q2 b1 d* i( a( O' i
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 5 {6 U* }& f, j$ l9 N
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet ( u6 L* y7 y: U d, G$ N v, Q# ]
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet % {/ C# u' y$ b5 \1 B
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet ; u3 f* o4 \$ M. ~" i
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet 8 ]4 M" H& F+ {1 q- ~& \& p
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet # n; `8 h& D( i6 W& q8 ?
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet ; |6 w2 E; ^' D+ y3 U8 U6 H) G
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
9 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 q$ ?1 y3 z# b9 f. _. T
6 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet ' e# J7 [: v* H! l8 V
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 3 _% }7 b3 x% o0 X
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 6
D4Y Judy x 27
A6M3a Zero x 9
B5N Kate x 18 # s. ]3 z5 J( P0 e" F
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 120 8 T$ X0 p2 N* G' H% m
Corsair IV x 24 # A3 ?: |8 f U, U* z* h
Japanese aircraft losses ; D7 K, c& |- x$ Q& s U9 _/ n( q
A6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed 2 s/ m$ F& @+ Y3 R* [: e. ~2 h
D4Y Judy: 20 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 7 destroyed 4 |9 ]8 d. ?: W. T
B5N Kate: 17 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
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Allied Ships
CV Intrepid, Bomb hits 1 . ?& S: _3 p$ {( [/ u) X# N5 P# g& Y" U' L
Aircraft Attacking: : D. G+ ~4 x+ b
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet " A+ ^; A8 l/ ]+ x, k
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
Japanese aircraft 6 F" c4 X, X8 j. U( A2 H
A6M5 Zeke x 9 $ s5 [8 R& w. M( e- V# V% |6 d
D3A Val x 9
D4Y Judy x 27
B5N Kate x 18
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 115 3 D/ f; p, M' Y! h$ C2 i
Corsair IV x 24
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Japanese aircraft losses * D; n' e' \) n6 X @
A6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed
D3A Val: 9 destroyed : F; t% I3 m9 J* e- V
D4Y Judy: 21 destroyed . f- C. A: Y! `' b0 P
B5N Kate: 10 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed
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Allied Ships
CV Bunker Hill, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Sampson, Bomb hits 2, on fire 5 F' J$ Y8 T% S$ S. x
Aircraft Attacking: s6 s5 j4 [. B# [( |1 y$ B: V
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
8 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
5 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 * f" t- K( n* [2 q. P" V
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Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6 / |! ~' ?, Y! q7 h4 g
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 98
Corsair IV x 23
Japanese aircraft losses & f9 Y; X5 }+ b. L
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed + F7 Z# G' v( O: ~
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Allied aircraft losses ( K+ ]( e7 p3 R' D& |" m* O4 D
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 * p: P8 }2 k' o& V) ~
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3 % }# } @, ?7 W: T: s
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Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 98
Corsair IV x 23
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Japanese aircraft losses $ ~: [( k k G x; h: z: i8 |
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
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Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 50
D3A Val x 15 1 F2 B: U! X. }2 k
D4Y Judy x 15
A6M3a Zero x 6
B5N Kate x 17 & o2 m6 z# z( J/ H- { r1 ^7 |# M/ s
B6N Jill x 2 , [8 U+ O- E& W2 @
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 98 4 W6 J9 j8 Q% R) s, l
Corsair IV x 23
Japanese aircraft losses 5 `* r4 D- g9 t
A6M5 Zeke: 50 destroyed 4 O! C! ~$ v7 X& }) }
D3A Val: 12 destroyed 2 G/ {& n3 A, Q: A2 s
D4Y Judy: 9 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed 9 K$ \# X6 R7 u. E1 L; J
B5N Kate: 16 destroyed * r5 I, M8 h- `7 k1 @' q
B6N Jill: 2 destroyed 4 U# P, f+ d0 x3 \8 ~- L! x( [
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Allied aircraft losses 3 `+ {% P' a# U) X
F6F Hellcat: 15 destroyed, 9 damaged
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed b+ s/ K! o2 m- [$ x
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Allied Ships ( e A* A2 ]; V) V+ U8 v" l2 @
CV Formidable
CV Illustrious
CVL Cabot
Aircraft Attacking: 8 S) p4 k' x0 b- @) {
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 |. J; C8 Q! H: V
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
原帖由 wildcat 于 2006-12-7 10:46 发表
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目前 PzB 跟 Sneer 都遇到相同的問題. 就是 43 年後 A2A 不管日方經驗&機數佔優勢,在面對 F6F + F4U 的 CAP 下, 損失非常慘重
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這在CV 對戰中, 對日方不利0 w4 P5 r+ u- C" e1 t' a3 I
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-6 18:23 发表; w( ?" c/ i7 s7 `6 {2 W( `- d
PzB vs wobbly的我一直有看,他的战报既详细又配图,sneer的无图,不知道哪个位置说打下印度、中国和珍珠港,不过现在盟军已反攻到印度的詹谢谱儿了
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-7 11:10 发表
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这个例子里日方护航机数量太少了,面对接近200架F6F能突防就不错了
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-8 09:38 发表+ L3 h2 k' ?% s& f. N) p: ]
盟军估计会跳过菲律宾和台湾,直接攻占冲绳,彻底卡死鬼子的喉咙,剩下 ...
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