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怎么区分胜败?算总分吗?
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豹子最好战绩就是打下印度和中国,不知道有没有人连这个地方都丢了还会继续打下去![]()
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那你能打下去吗~~~~~

原帖由 浆糊 于 2006-12-6 17:37 发表4 O- w% ]) n& r
楼上的推荐几个精彩战报的链接吧,我等去拜读一下![]()
不知道是否就是PzB的这局。至于BB,米军优势不是那么明显,总共才40艘,珍珠港砸沉8艘,后期对战再灭一些的话,只剩10艘也是可能的。


原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-6 22:44 发表$ x) ^5 u: z4 F4 ]! D) W" x5 C: H F4 u
PzB的战报的确太长了,现在是119页,而且多数都是他对战斗的总结。能坚持打到44年的的确很少。 S" |$ t+ J. O" d' P, P
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值得注意的是PzB也在42年8月打下了卡拉奇,虽然解除了印度方面的威胁,但美军仍然在44年10月就打回了马来半岛, ...
原帖由 逍遥 于 2006-12-6 19:14 发表+ ~& s i: t* @
PzB的战报里面有几个很奇怪的地方。
他的KB似乎损失很重,而美军的航母好像没有受到太大的杀伤。
还有一个,他提到美军的BB只剩了10艘左右,这个也不知道具体的情况。* m5 ~0 k5 o. d; H/ A4 q! N
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战报太长了,找不到战斗的详细情况。 ...
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/26/43 4 F& L7 ?9 P+ h# m! `. v4 s" X
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TF 1162 encounters mine field at Darwin (36,84)
Allied Ships
MSW Cromer
MSW Goulburn , l: P4 b6 W7 g3 r( a" Z: e$ ]
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ASW attack at 37,69 % C9 Q" H' s. _ O# z, ^# w
Japanese Ships
PC Ch 22 ; }2 p" G/ j) C7 [1 o+ q% o# n0 ~
PC Ch 20
PG Taiko Maru ) |1 Z' C; p9 M+ h3 m% F4 Z3 G
PG Shosei Maru
PG Seiko Maru , ?8 ?& |8 J9 |, Z+ B* Q
PG Keiko Maru 6 p( u" D" r6 d9 Q* V. h- ^
PG Aso Maru
PG Tamo Maru #7
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Allied Ships
SS O23
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Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78 6 l* l' _7 X: D3 B& p3 z
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Allied aircraft " `3 I+ v8 c9 A( {- m3 _" n: u4 j
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3 6 c3 c# u( ~7 `# @& a7 \
F-5A Lightning x 2
B-25J Mitchell x 135
Allied aircraft losses 7 }; l. W/ F: g
B-25J Mitchell: 9 damaged L* E' [5 R3 }; {* ~
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Japanese ground losses: . n. B* R& h5 b- \! r# q7 N; P+ s
163 casualties reported
Guns lost 1 8 v( }$ _8 O) A1 i
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Airbase hits 6 - t/ } C/ U4 o6 J0 F3 J7 s% R
Airbase supply hits 3 ' c2 V( {+ @/ w g
Runway hits 126
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Aircraft Attacking: . e W. K& w; ^) e
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet $ M" k7 }; v, Y, N; P6 D
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet + _% v# F: @3 V7 K
16 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet v+ q: k4 |) W& X) K! P# p- W# \+ d' {
24 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 7 m4 s1 H! `5 q2 _
13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ( V( N+ w6 M5 |; v7 M
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
10 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ) b, \ s0 S9 A' _
13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet , N4 O+ Z: s* C% t* J2 L/ N1 X- \
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet & f& ?* v; _3 Z2 z
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet c8 q$ K h* q2 C* X* m
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet , h% L4 D/ o9 k* @
5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet . ^% O% w# H) C# K% W; l
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53
Japanese aircraft * M0 F& j, |2 y* g1 b
D3A Val x 54 0 m! W# L9 {. |7 K
A6M5c Zeke x 47 $ n! L3 ]3 n0 G% d
No Japanese losses
Runway hits 30 " H I8 U) S9 ~/ Q* f4 O
Aircraft Attacking: . y4 c! T$ \% O2 X
27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet ( {) y f4 N/ S, V
47 x A6M5c Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
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Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 84
D3A Val x 98 ! F; Q" W4 T/ G
D4Y Judy x 95 ( ^9 X: U! ?* Q. Y* {9 N
B5N Kate x 129 2 b( F/ `2 G u: C. ^. w3 g- Q
B6N Jill x 47
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 147 5 B$ A8 v2 [& |" A8 J
Corsair IV x 24
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Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 84 destroyed 5 p2 d6 l( O' l {! x
D3A Val: 73 destroyed ; O; o) z5 u7 E9 q' z. w. @
D4Y Judy: 72 destroyed - b# G% T p. i, z- }
B5N Kate: 106 destroyed
B6N Jill: 40 destroyed # C% I$ l! t! y# {
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Allied aircraft losses 1 k2 t' ^# ]; f/ ^+ _! k
F6F Hellcat: 27 destroyed, 10 damaged * Z; n" e7 }3 X5 N
Corsair IV: 1 damaged
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Allied Ships
CVL Cabot R& M* ]) g* Y
CV Illustrious, Bomb hits 1
CV Formidable
CVL Langley
CLAA San Diego
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Aircraft Attacking: 0 a$ K7 @. M5 j7 N
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 3 |0 |% R& `" }% R p; }
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet # \* g' E0 \$ H2 P9 m' U8 z
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet & _ S' {+ a6 I+ `3 i" a
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet / q4 C- M) O" K7 \
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet ! o, f, w. R, k9 ~% {' B$ T
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 5 g& _$ f' s B" j4 W4 c8 K
9 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet ( n" ~( ^" U! e3 P
3 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
6 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet " j' @5 L+ a- o* u5 K
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
Japanese aircraft 6 i. x/ X# M% |, f, Q
A6M5 Zeke x 6
D4Y Judy x 27 : F; Z( ^ ^7 W) m2 m& M
A6M3a Zero x 9 & |" l8 @; b' R/ k
B5N Kate x 18
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Allied aircraft ) e$ e P5 {! P4 i8 C# @3 A
F6F Hellcat x 120
Corsair IV x 24
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Japanese aircraft losses ' s! a: ^* ?8 i' {- M
A6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed , ]' i. |% W9 _
D4Y Judy: 20 destroyed / U: l! _8 k% Y2 {4 Q( f2 ~) |
A6M3a Zero: 7 destroyed
B5N Kate: 17 destroyed 3 f) a8 f: \1 M
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Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged 3 h5 e" @0 {, r4 z# w
Allied Ships
CV Intrepid, Bomb hits 1 - y) k9 \% k, F
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 8 _7 Y& C$ ^7 h4 c6 {" s
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
Japanese aircraft 2 w7 M- N% G4 ?7 B; p% d) R
A6M5 Zeke x 9 2 E5 i3 R5 R" g7 p8 B3 P2 Y+ B
D3A Val x 9
D4Y Judy x 27 / X* @& }( x% z: M; O
B5N Kate x 18 * e$ \: g2 H$ `4 r
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Allied aircraft , V5 q, K [ b! K
F6F Hellcat x 115 $ P( O Y7 M2 e: l3 B2 h/ Q. z$ X
Corsair IV x 24 + C6 E. |: ]/ c
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Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed
D3A Val: 9 destroyed 6 U: e4 ~# p1 z+ Q# B) a: r: k' m
D4Y Judy: 21 destroyed
B5N Kate: 10 destroyed % ^; |6 f( B& [0 W' k7 M x
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed * |8 ~0 S. B2 g- F8 ]
Allied Ships $ k: ^4 g7 U/ x& f- Z/ y- V5 p
CV Bunker Hill, Bomb hits 1, on fire . t- ]6 t& d. X4 }7 V: }* @/ ]
DD Sampson, Bomb hits 2, on fire , ]. e. }8 X2 m1 |
Aircraft Attacking: 0 Q( \: Y6 d( g& c) i' b* g
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
8 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 0 q8 @5 E4 i0 s3 k! e
5 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet t) l2 {* i8 B
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 - o+ N/ F* ?4 n, Y
Japanese aircraft : O2 g5 M- U% S7 }
G4M1 Betty x 6
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 98 u, L, T Q: G: b3 D/ O* o
Corsair IV x 23 ' v* A, ?8 N* ~ j. k
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Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed 1 F" j. W0 A B7 l5 _- I7 Q$ _
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Allied aircraft losses - T p- S2 O: z% l, c
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged ( ?; r9 Q) X+ b& O
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 ) @( p2 k1 N* H/ p* m4 ]
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Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3
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Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 98 . v" I: A% a* P" a9 R K7 B: ~0 ]
Corsair IV x 23
Japanese aircraft losses 2 v4 u- }7 F0 f' D" r
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed 3 [& G& y2 S) ^) a5 ^" i. V2 q; d, w
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
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Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 50
D3A Val x 15
D4Y Judy x 15
A6M3a Zero x 6
B5N Kate x 17 3 {" j- A+ c. [4 {
B6N Jill x 2 % F! {8 p! A `' C
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 98 + n; ^# B+ \# o0 [2 Q$ Y
Corsair IV x 23 9 p4 n( G" \5 h @% c
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Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 50 destroyed
D3A Val: 12 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 9 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed 6 Q; h- p+ j% Z6 C
B5N Kate: 16 destroyed , ~* V& \2 b" r: r. q- T! j8 ^
B6N Jill: 2 destroyed - n# y$ ~/ z0 B7 }/ L0 s% I4 H; E& z
Allied aircraft losses + Q- H9 R4 m% K4 m9 R+ M8 s9 i0 Q
F6F Hellcat: 15 destroyed, 9 damaged ( B+ U0 |2 Y3 C( K, b, u1 P* Y
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships ( j, G) `: i' \( H7 ^
CV Formidable
CV Illustrious * L) |6 F, j+ [1 R i b4 j5 \" W
CVL Cabot , m0 a) [ P* V) y, S
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Aircraft Attacking: * \; d# }/ f7 ~6 W
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet ) O% ?: R1 P+ p- B; U0 e# T4 S
1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
原帖由 wildcat 于 2006-12-7 10:46 发表
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目前 PzB 跟 Sneer 都遇到相同的問題. 就是 43 年後 A2A 不管日方經驗&機數佔優勢,在面對 F6F + F4U 的 CAP 下, 損失非常慘重
這在CV 對戰中, 對日方不利& Z7 V% j H& u6 |4 S9 A& B$ S
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-6 18:23 发表1 ?$ g5 q& j7 L
PzB vs wobbly的我一直有看,他的战报既详细又配图,sneer的无图,不知道哪个位置说打下印度、中国和珍珠港,不过现在盟军已反攻到印度的詹谢谱儿了
, 看太多戰報, 可能記錯了. 應該是Sneer 另一個戰報吧. 原諒我原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-7 11:10 发表
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这个例子里日方护航机数量太少了,面对接近200架F6F能突防就不错了

原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-8 09:38 发表4 P5 o, \3 @+ F' h1 h
盟军估计会跳过菲律宾和台湾,直接攻占冲绳,彻底卡死鬼子的喉咙,剩下 ...


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