原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-1 09:49 发表" s7 Q A" j: m9 n
怎么区分胜败?算总分吗?
豹子最好战绩就是打下印度和中国,不知道有没有人连这个地方都丢了还会继续打下去![]()
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原帖由 浆糊 于 2006-12-6 17:37 发表0 Y8 c4 J9 Q" s4 Y9 ]- j
楼上的推荐几个精彩战报的链接吧,我等去拜读一下![]()
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-6 22:44 发表
PzB的战报的确太长了,现在是119页,而且多数都是他对战斗的总结。能坚持打到44年的的确很少。! i$ e! X1 @& \
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值得注意的是PzB也在42年8月打下了卡拉奇,虽然解除了印度方面的威胁,但美军仍然在44年10月就打回了马来半岛, ...
原帖由 逍遥 于 2006-12-6 19:14 发表/ S! Z$ {/ W( G. B% V
PzB的战报里面有几个很奇怪的地方。
他的KB似乎损失很重,而美军的航母好像没有受到太大的杀伤。* u! H9 [- u. g4 T
还有一个,他提到美军的BB只剩了10艘左右,这个也不知道具体的情况。
战报太长了,找不到战斗的详细情况。 ...
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/26/43 - b+ G% C3 b0 k% {+ D- S; G4 z
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TF 1162 encounters mine field at Darwin (36,84) W3 \* W. b( i" ]: S" U$ O# c
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Allied Ships [4 z! a; `* x, t; v/ @
MSW Cromer
MSW Goulburn 8 v2 p2 p$ K" u5 |) ?
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ASW attack at 37,69 7 m3 X; p3 V& N0 ]6 [
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Japanese Ships
PC Ch 22 $ x, L+ C* K k8 ?: y' w2 n0 y3 y" k
PC Ch 20 l F$ U" \' }
PG Taiko Maru 1 h1 d" n% H1 _; B8 J
PG Shosei Maru
PG Seiko Maru
PG Keiko Maru % K0 Z+ X1 A0 B" P) j
PG Aso Maru
PG Tamo Maru #7 % _( m5 J2 f! |! M( y/ q i
Allied Ships
SS O23
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Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78
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Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3
F-5A Lightning x 2 : Z6 W# i. ]! j4 q
B-25J Mitchell x 135
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Allied aircraft losses % r, i) O; @* |2 U. e+ G' I1 E: B
B-25J Mitchell: 9 damaged
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Japanese ground losses:
163 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3 * H! G J1 u3 q+ O" Q
Runway hits 126
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Aircraft Attacking: ; t3 ]/ k0 |# R& |5 B
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ; J. ]! q: p# Q- K* I
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ) X# T, H. f9 ?( \! {: P
16 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet + m- ~# P6 N+ ^, n2 i7 m5 o2 `7 [
24 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 9 Z9 b7 W; Q, l8 z- J
13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet $ C: |# P4 Q3 j) t4 z1 M$ m
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
10 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 2 h Y. q+ K8 l, I7 [ S% e ^
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet + N- T& x. x3 |( ^, U6 a8 A
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet & a1 E% u. N6 X8 S' K
5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 8 [8 h) k2 K) {, ?) }6 n+ n
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet % z: h* W% r& P4 @1 l" O
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 9 j" W! q1 g* a
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ( b: H! P6 P4 N" J
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Day Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53 & \; {) `5 {$ j7 X5 | f# ]4 R
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Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 54 5 _* b/ R0 d0 `3 Q
A6M5c Zeke x 47
No Japanese losses 4 G; Y) X" Z" Z; ~
Runway hits 30 0 a' ]5 U) ^. v+ P2 O6 }8 _- ~
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Aircraft Attacking:
27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet B7 Y4 \) Q6 Y7 a
47 x A6M5c Zeke bombing at 2000 feet 9 c/ F5 _# X7 o+ j/ z& U
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 % G; A. `' D- P6 \
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Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 84 ' h) F7 V( w: o: \% w
D3A Val x 98 , n& g) [( _% w8 S% T3 W
D4Y Judy x 95
B5N Kate x 129 ( g3 b8 V; ^5 j$ c
B6N Jill x 47 % e+ l+ D% X1 r* u- _
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Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 147 ! U( H' d+ _# |, B5 C! P9 D
Corsair IV x 24 + A" ^0 O: j: o0 {: T
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Japanese aircraft losses 0 b5 u7 U6 U) V6 I# c4 n
A6M5 Zeke: 84 destroyed
D3A Val: 73 destroyed * T5 L( V# M9 d |
D4Y Judy: 72 destroyed " W' i: E) j; a* s
B5N Kate: 106 destroyed
B6N Jill: 40 destroyed ! p' o# Y9 E) j* B3 _
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 27 destroyed, 10 damaged
Corsair IV: 1 damaged ! y2 }! o' h% L; h8 I
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Allied Ships
CVL Cabot 7 {9 x; X9 z& e+ F2 i+ R
CV Illustrious, Bomb hits 1
CV Formidable
CVL Langley # _6 C* w' }& U2 \' e F
CLAA San Diego 4 C- M+ O& D O# T9 j. C' t5 M
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet % o, W3 z8 V% s ^) ^3 u
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 3 B" l6 m! k* z' ]! ~' h ^! V
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet 6 G' l4 Q4 F; r3 F
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 7 p9 I6 p3 ]0 q% b7 a1 U# X' u
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet % w. c: S. V. X' I
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet & l" O; e' m# N
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet / M0 q( [: o: J9 O& O8 ], n4 i
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet W- r* k0 K' ?
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet $ a0 u% {! u) q) o; m0 f4 M1 w
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet / E# F: t5 v6 |3 ]: d: i
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
9 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet ' ^# W- X' S2 S% G1 _7 q7 \
8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet / @0 O9 q0 }$ u$ ~& G* l
6 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
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Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 6
D4Y Judy x 27
A6M3a Zero x 9
B5N Kate x 18
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Allied aircraft 9 U2 H0 }! Z: h4 b& z! P
F6F Hellcat x 120 6 b7 G9 N8 Z; \& O: i5 o P
Corsair IV x 24
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Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 20 destroyed + }/ `: u- b s9 V
A6M3a Zero: 7 destroyed
B5N Kate: 17 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses + L( B. q( m& l( Z c! S
F6F Hellcat: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged ( K, f6 X0 [0 d9 B# L+ n1 s& H
Allied Ships 7 I3 \' f0 l. ~+ D( A4 ~8 ?; @" M
CV Intrepid, Bomb hits 1
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Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
Japanese aircraft # ^, l7 k( }$ a) F; C) `
A6M5 Zeke x 9
D3A Val x 9
D4Y Judy x 27
B5N Kate x 18 ' M- z0 s+ T- v- E) l
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Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 115
Corsair IV x 24
Japanese aircraft losses ' v4 F. n$ B) A t4 ~
A6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed 7 ~/ F" a& z6 F, _2 w+ s. I
D3A Val: 9 destroyed 5 v, o5 n' o& S! d2 a8 C* H/ X( j
D4Y Judy: 21 destroyed
B5N Kate: 10 destroyed 6 u# _4 I9 u& g$ A; p) ?
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed $ b0 w/ y/ n" G% Y
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Allied Ships
CV Bunker Hill, Bomb hits 1, on fire 0 ^1 j1 `% k! |% C& h
DD Sampson, Bomb hits 2, on fire $ K7 O6 }' G' R2 K# L* k5 W
Aircraft Attacking: 9 c' J; |3 p+ o6 E7 v6 m
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet 9 _) I9 Y+ E0 y0 u
8 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet * D% d0 Y. r7 Z+ @
5 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet : n0 y& d$ G* v6 ^# U& O
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 * q% B8 F7 ` Y
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Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6 4 I8 I5 v/ p: x5 i, j& E" ]
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 98
Corsair IV x 23 8 @: \' ]( K) h% X0 E' {
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Japanese aircraft losses 3 z ]0 A4 p* f$ _
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses ( X( Y p( y2 a
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3
Allied aircraft ( t V# `9 @' r5 _6 v
F6F Hellcat x 98
Corsair IV x 23 ! W8 [$ Q% \ E/ ^2 n
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Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 / n/ _1 D! n1 W# m" J: e- V/ x5 S
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Japanese aircraft + ^+ q& a& w2 E% k- a6 V# a5 u7 v
A6M5 Zeke x 50 0 J! ]/ u' x2 M% v8 `+ C
D3A Val x 15 8 C; r' f. m; [' L# I: g
D4Y Judy x 15 + o/ A9 k+ b8 _8 z- [+ w
A6M3a Zero x 6 ; e+ j( |$ q x% p
B5N Kate x 17
B6N Jill x 2 ( {/ a( V$ `( m) w9 ]* G( S# f
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Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 98 9 a3 W. G! s/ B/ m/ h
Corsair IV x 23
Japanese aircraft losses ; W) B$ `9 l3 F' O/ b8 `
A6M5 Zeke: 50 destroyed
D3A Val: 12 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 9 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed
B5N Kate: 16 destroyed / A0 }2 E' x+ Q3 @
B6N Jill: 2 destroyed $ z9 |- k3 R$ w1 d4 a. V6 r b
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Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 15 destroyed, 9 damaged
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships % Z% m- ~ k/ M0 q1 P3 `
CV Formidable
CV Illustrious : V1 l$ i/ p+ I l2 `, Y
CVL Cabot
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Aircraft Attacking: 6 k" g$ x% j& J, j& G ^
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet + g2 V9 j& K8 Z* L1 z9 J& J+ b
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
原帖由 wildcat 于 2006-12-7 10:46 发表, t7 c3 d% w& `( k
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目前 PzB 跟 Sneer 都遇到相同的問題. 就是 43 年後 A2A 不管日方經驗&機數佔優勢,在面對 F6F + F4U 的 CAP 下, 損失非常慘重+ v. C$ j2 ]: T5 _9 H7 Y1 K
這在CV 對戰中, 對日方不利
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-6 18:23 发表7 x4 r- R6 R4 L& B0 k4 |/ G; K- u* z: S
PzB vs wobbly的我一直有看,他的战报既详细又配图,sneer的无图,不知道哪个位置说打下印度、中国和珍珠港,不过现在盟军已反攻到印度的詹谢谱儿了
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-7 11:10 发表
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这个例子里日方护航机数量太少了,面对接近200架F6F能突防就不错了
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-8 09:38 发表
盟军估计会跳过菲律宾和台湾,直接攻占冲绳,彻底卡死鬼子的喉咙,剩下 ...
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