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官網上 PZB 的對戰最慘烈.
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; ]3 S& V& ^9 a% Q+ K5 y0 x! A0 s日本玩家進展最好的Sneer  & Raverdave 的對戰, 此公打下中國 + 印度 外加 珍珠港.
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[ 本帖最后由 wildcat 于 2006-12-6 17:45 编辑 ]
原帖由 浆糊 于 2006-12-6 17:37 发表* o+ k/ b( z# ]5 m- }3 g3 _
楼上的推荐几个精彩战报的链接吧,我等去拜读一下
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" z. ^0 @* f4 v" E) i2 S( Y% k6 ohttp://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=988842 (sneer vs Raver)
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http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=679803 (PzB vs wobbly)" L2 d% Q1 C9 |
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http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=997347 (Andy vs PzB)
原帖由 逍遥 于 2006-12-6 19:14 发表6 r# m4 U& b) Q% D
PzB的战报里面有几个很奇怪的地方。
% b; N' _& V4 r* E" ?  }他的KB似乎损失很重,而美军的航母好像没有受到太大的杀伤。
2 r# |% X( O% l+ `' \还有一个,他提到美军的BB只剩了10艘左右,这个也不知道具体的情况。
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( \+ q: P$ p* |$ a7 q/ `4 T1 U# v战报太长了,找不到战斗的详细情况。 ...
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目前 PzB 跟  Sneer 都遇到相同的問題. 就是 43 年後 A2A 不管日方經驗&機數佔優勢,在面對 F6F + F4U 的 CAP 下, 損失非常慘重
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# C, P, n* I7 P這在CV 對戰中, 對日方不利' A# l3 F0 z1 t5 X6 y/ c: w. O
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/26/43 - O3 K. ]6 f* B4 _2 Z- Y( B6 N
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# u! I5 n' c: r9 O& A0 ?TF 1162 encounters mine field at Darwin (36,84) - M& K% h/ P. L3 D
  
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7 p: h7 ]1 {3 q$ Y( y# ^; cMSW Cromer
  e8 q" }( H2 |1 ~MSW Goulburn ( C% q# G/ w6 i% Q( A
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5 L8 l+ Z. O) Z& k' g8 ?( D5 QASW attack at 37,69 & J: M3 U1 p2 Z- f
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Japanese Ships ; ?9 w  G* j: A7 r  R# J# P$ S8 i* d
PC Ch 22
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* b0 L$ R" Q# r5 ?/ MPG Taiko Maru $ t8 `) }# L7 G: L* I4 _) O
PG Shosei Maru
; i* u7 p) d- Y" j4 f# p  c! T" YPG Seiko Maru 4 V' V( i" n  r9 c
PG Keiko Maru # H2 M0 Z0 g6 l  P
PG Aso Maru 3 _, t- U, ?8 i/ r& v! b
PG Tamo Maru #7 0 [0 \/ |: ^# F1 `0 S# A
  
% G2 u2 b+ R) s  XAllied Ships 8 _; ]. u8 t2 f1 N
SS O23
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- C& S. \8 Q- c+ u# n+ yDay Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78
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( F  ~+ I' H8 D$ Y/ X, cAllied aircraft 7 U& M/ [7 }3 G; V0 K6 q4 P
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3 8 n6 w/ n) j  ~' `5 R
F-5A Lightning x 2
/ G8 n, P0 j$ L6 T7 b0 g- l- G2 nB-25J Mitchell x 135 3 @, c8 b# g' l! u) O8 D
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  4 L6 {/ E6 s  o2 V
Allied aircraft losses
0 {  B; P+ J9 s4 ]B-25J Mitchell: 9 damaged 7 A/ x9 _2 }8 h3 J1 D( l0 H7 W5 ?8 `
  6 A! C* }5 P3 m! v7 M) l
Japanese ground losses: ! X& d" w( }! \
163 casualties reported
6 k% v9 [1 `, UGuns lost 1 7 H2 U! ?9 m+ g- r2 J( J
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Airbase hits 6
1 ?. s2 D! q+ @9 w$ JAirbase supply hits 3
" _+ Z0 Z+ `. HRunway hits 126
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Aircraft Attacking: % T3 _* }/ m% ~0 e( B
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
8 S  w2 U3 d7 C3 \: E2 n4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 0 r6 T9 t+ C: `) a9 z( C8 c' r1 w7 ]
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet " G/ L8 ~7 j- |$ l6 q. L
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
$ _/ E1 ]+ x& g! X4 \16 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 6 v) @! J3 j' g
24 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 4 _8 a+ A- ^/ O' w5 S, m$ M- _
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 9 s9 g% d( R: Z  u6 `9 B6 R
10 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
7 a2 J8 f4 `- l# Z; u13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
. }" n& k4 c8 `5 P) o3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 8 N* b  D; J; M5 p2 @
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 9 ]: {& ^$ w0 V6 J- Y2 W7 u
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
& T2 P9 L; O/ Y, w& a6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 5 _1 d. I4 P, w# {
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 5 l$ o$ d+ c% c2 [
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
7 f. H. o$ E3 q, X* B+ G5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
9 i; c( I# B6 `  T7 W3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet * m: p. K% w" O' b
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
; Q7 Q' |" t5 S$ F* `8 g1 O% H3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 2 R7 W% R! N6 f1 @% T
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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, G$ c1 p* v; {; C. Q& u, N3 ^+ rDay Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53 8 `7 e6 _* H8 F9 o) g
  
. v2 d3 A8 q  }4 v; mJapanese aircraft
* S( L7 V* ?2 z0 Q* B5 rD3A Val x 54 0 z) N9 `5 S7 H! D( h: {
A6M5c Zeke x 47
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+ {# L6 y" x) W+ @# UNo Japanese losses 0 M9 N3 P3 z5 w3 t* P# R# t5 O
  
" _/ U/ W2 Q; }  S& W6 X+ M$ jRunway hits 30 , \* w& b9 r' Y9 P! `4 B! q  c9 R3 D
  
7 i8 A9 j5 I7 |# X  fAircraft Attacking:
* r; Z7 Z; D. c/ n6 F( n27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet ( V8 d; Y5 k5 U9 m# V+ y$ H) Q/ d' o
27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet   l" `: {- e5 j% G  M* S
47 x A6M5c Zeke bombing at 2000 feet " i  R$ h$ V/ A# ?  q$ J
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 . |2 f4 |* R2 c' j
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Japanese aircraft ( x# m" d: q2 h9 w. Z# N. M
A6M5 Zeke x 84
1 t" _# H# e% p+ c1 rD3A Val x 98 ) h9 N& P5 C5 o9 a2 [6 Z0 w
D4Y Judy x 95 7 H1 r* x& M# u3 {, L2 A6 f5 |# c
B5N Kate x 129
! j" m5 P& c' a+ kB6N Jill x 47
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Allied aircraft 5 K4 n) t0 t7 V% h, Y2 h5 ~
F6F Hellcat x 147
+ X2 p! p* p, @1 U/ J( DCorsair IV x 24   I; i2 K; \/ I7 x: F
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Japanese aircraft losses $ @+ W+ m+ ?9 h. L* Y/ _4 ~  w
A6M5 Zeke: 84 destroyed
; x! e/ ~% {8 G" ?  L( L* fD3A Val: 73 destroyed
- d" r- U% u1 J( @( B# ?4 e5 [+ HD4Y Judy: 72 destroyed / ~$ r5 [6 L' z) S5 q: S8 B
B5N Kate: 106 destroyed
! t2 H) x" F+ n. N. w  |B6N Jill: 40 destroyed 2 W5 M, F7 u; D& q
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Allied aircraft losses % ?5 K: F5 Q1 l7 n
F6F Hellcat: 27 destroyed, 10 damaged + l$ ?3 P* l$ N' \6 J5 k, l
Corsair IV: 1 damaged
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Allied Ships % R7 }; l6 _3 W# @
CVL Cabot ( b! V+ Q  f& p) O& j2 v" M; b
CV Illustrious, Bomb hits 1 % E) Y! j; ?# F! x3 q9 E
CV Formidable
" {( Y. b/ p; ^( p3 q5 L$ TCVL Langley
& G- J% \1 z  `8 S" lCLAA San Diego : V$ }* r9 M6 [9 A
  
3 E/ r- D9 e; N+ \/ bAircraft Attacking:
4 N* p  K! v8 }$ w8 ?! u1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet , b) Q; o2 P! A$ C. P
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet + A/ L4 v3 Q  h  V" a1 F
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 2 k" J5 `! l+ `8 K
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
0 \; H6 F8 U3 x$ G  U3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
1 V: t  ~# ]  `( O1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 z- b$ N6 W* B; C) \
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
% u( b% V, _, B! T0 c4 q+ f$ k4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
+ x' l1 d7 a5 _* k; n1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
% ]+ V5 S* y# ~8 D2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
& s( c8 X' u; Q+ N$ w1 J2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet % M4 q) N6 Q! H# l& S" a5 `
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet ! O6 ~. C& y* U% j# |
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
. m6 e4 m* o# u. K+ |+ B, h4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet : J' R5 C0 v# [1 x
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet   v$ O/ @9 R2 L( }! F1 c1 H& P5 {
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 7 T9 w, ^6 [' Y5 I1 }) i  q1 r
9 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet ; y& {, Z4 j  d8 N
3 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet % K( V6 P0 _& c8 B
8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet * U/ [! c* t( D3 f1 j2 K) I
6 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet , t# I; M4 `1 p) }; h0 v" }
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 , S8 }) G3 X& W; a* X; G$ r
  
; F2 h$ q5 I" Y  N$ x: X' S* mJapanese aircraft
8 l/ _) C; A3 j- S8 e* MA6M5 Zeke x 6 , u; ]! f1 q( e3 A7 c' Q( X3 M
D4Y Judy x 27 8 p+ r7 L0 I, m+ s/ ]% E
A6M3a Zero x 9
8 |+ i  P3 W: Q! S( EB5N Kate x 18 7 H  U+ q& x- y$ T! z
  
* T6 e& r4 ^: N" f; K2 j3 UAllied aircraft   S' C7 ?9 g7 \1 e
F6F Hellcat x 120 3 Q8 y- v6 c& m4 m. g! K
Corsair IV x 24 " P; P7 c1 d* {7 ?8 p
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Japanese aircraft losses
4 S4 Y  F+ L- P9 I% Q5 v3 IA6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed
; c& M3 P; E1 o/ `; t. h. G% L' bD4Y Judy: 20 destroyed 7 k$ w  h  x4 F/ s9 l) R
A6M3a Zero: 7 destroyed
* X6 a2 Q( Q" g" z% n9 ^9 j: DB5N Kate: 17 destroyed . j  i2 w2 t$ Z1 U2 j
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Allied aircraft losses # Z, A- I4 g& H* E- a# a! a
F6F Hellcat: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged , [# h; a% I0 ]+ D/ z9 [) g5 @
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Allied Ships 6 A9 w, D7 u' Q7 P
CV Intrepid, Bomb hits 1 % ?/ B3 v/ q1 k# P. `
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Aircraft Attacking:
$ t! M! [" _. U1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet + a8 @+ |, }1 Q& W! \6 Q
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 6 W, L8 b& e# v3 ^
  
: Z2 D' J6 Q, `3 T8 x0 u; YJapanese aircraft 9 W7 p$ f' s" H# s. {: d) Q6 v
A6M5 Zeke x 9
% M9 m, I3 i) w% I  Y+ WD3A Val x 9 : c- U, m2 q& q" _- l
D4Y Judy x 27
' ^+ L6 T; R, Z/ K6 N7 sB5N Kate x 18 2 a, l% H7 y* r+ w( c
  ) x+ A+ e, |+ x, n$ L* w" G
Allied aircraft
0 ~2 X# d1 U6 [& O1 @& Y  eF6F Hellcat x 115
$ A) L% w- K# c* C$ QCorsair IV x 24 ' Q# E6 T- Q# r% o. {. X# ^) E
  
& R$ J6 ^/ c; `2 V2 i. pJapanese aircraft losses
. W6 X" y! Z6 l+ w7 J6 F8 }, }4 yA6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed , F. ?4 I* [6 f) w. r! a6 @
D3A Val: 9 destroyed : P$ Q1 w' X+ Z7 H+ i
D4Y Judy: 21 destroyed
" }5 x( D5 f: X1 W+ i' H+ tB5N Kate: 10 destroyed ) |: ^- \* {* `5 ]1 P( z+ b
  
) y% ^! j& Y' f4 U& gAllied aircraft losses . D. |3 f, g& o6 B, _! V4 b
F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed & e2 ~4 R/ P+ [; @
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Allied Ships
6 X3 u5 o4 e  P7 I# \CV Bunker Hill, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
, ^1 M, g4 W9 t  G2 ]% IDD Sampson, Bomb hits 2,  on fire 6 l' P7 A+ w) T8 t( i: j1 @
  
7 n/ Y  D+ Q3 J" H4 O  `! uAircraft Attacking:
# @) b% P' Y; u- O, |1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet 1 L2 h0 L& t2 Q
8 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet . A) C% W4 {, N& }6 w
5 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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: Q  B  o$ {1 N& _$ zDay Air attack on TF at 14,79 3 g! z* P8 D5 g; w! [/ P
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Japanese aircraft
  k$ i/ [& w, N, m! K# S6 @G4M1 Betty x 6 & o6 |  V* P9 P/ i8 u/ y
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Allied aircraft
* ?, q5 l& |" y; B+ o9 eF6F Hellcat x 98 8 m* R+ z+ i: D3 }4 C, f! r  D1 p2 v, b
Corsair IV x 23
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Japanese aircraft losses
: k, J$ ]  }- vG4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
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# h3 \( k3 W! ]' }" v8 cAllied aircraft losses
; h& s; d# {: @3 M* e* |- P' dF6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
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5 z/ N3 D/ E6 Z8 ^  ~Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
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Japanese aircraft 1 l: Z* \! Y( Q: U0 p8 X5 R
G4M1 Betty x 3
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Allied aircraft
0 A; D3 L! `$ d" ]% cF6F Hellcat x 98
4 a$ S6 W8 ?. K. b3 v: y0 ?Corsair IV x 23 ! H! x7 u* a6 E0 ~9 p9 j
  
; G8 Y0 \8 [+ N5 Z# E0 K# B- B, }! I) DJapanese aircraft losses
# V4 \/ R: c4 I1 [6 r( E4 k3 |G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
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6 o7 q5 T5 b6 c/ Z: o; E5 dDay Air attack on TF at 14,79 4 N  u4 I' K6 i9 u, p* k
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Japanese aircraft # C: e  n* ]8 R* s5 {7 S2 j
A6M5 Zeke x 50 * X- g' O' j2 W+ t/ s# N# [
D3A Val x 15 : R% R, d% Y3 ?- D
D4Y Judy x 15
) r. B3 J& @0 F1 d2 R6 pA6M3a Zero x 6 & p: Y0 I4 H- {
B5N Kate x 17 $ t7 C, f  [6 ~
B6N Jill x 2 - A; D7 J% q7 h% Z8 t  \
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Allied aircraft
/ y( v, ~$ X! L8 uF6F Hellcat x 98
' s2 G- G, U8 N4 PCorsair IV x 23
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: X. J- |6 Y$ V# X2 @) ^: k8 v2 H% `Japanese aircraft losses ( b# \4 L: A" v) o! z" P
A6M5 Zeke: 50 destroyed , y7 H. _' R! Z6 m$ a4 w; Z& k6 c
D3A Val: 12 destroyed " M) }& [  Z0 _  V) z9 r  E
D4Y Judy: 9 destroyed
3 ?: e" T* s5 s' B9 O+ }A6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed ) I1 w8 }, B6 C. p
B5N Kate: 16 destroyed - h* G1 K# b* r) C7 _# G8 _
B6N Jill: 2 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses
6 p' R4 _1 k7 _) e, C$ M, n4 b1 H0 d' zF6F Hellcat: 15 destroyed, 9 damaged + D% Y+ f4 j) h9 B3 F% L$ c" w
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed
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9 s- g& [: J7 BAllied Ships ' X3 B; }! h# g' F  L7 ?
CV Formidable ) ^- K5 I8 d& \' u& ]& [# w
CV Illustrious 1 l1 e7 E- X! e) L- }
CVL Cabot ) T1 m8 c. T; t3 X$ j) x! m
  
, x, _& F' R8 [6 e4 XAircraft Attacking:
3 x+ K2 U; B( X5 J2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
- I) s* `( o9 I+ `5 G$ X+ Q( B1 J1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 6 f, p$ \9 G" _) L/ ~3 I  k
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet  
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: n# M6 [0 V- A, V5 p* `' f[ 本帖最后由 wildcat 于 2006-12-7 11:07 编辑 ]
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-6 18:23 发表
( X) c( r  p- Q! A; s! A0 APzB vs wobbly的我一直有看,他的战报既详细又配图,sneer的无图,不知道哪个位置说打下印度、中国和珍珠港,不过现在盟军已反攻到印度的詹谢谱儿了
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2 ~% E; b7 Q' K- F, m , 看太多戰報,  可能記錯了. 應該是Sneer 另一個戰報吧. 原諒我
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-7 11:10 发表0 p8 E  T* B+ a$ u7 I

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' \* c# t" L0 R4 x3 T这个例子里日方护航机数量太少了,面对接近200架F6F能突防就不错了
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80+ exp 的 Zero 52 型 vs 60+ exp F6F 打成這樣. 真像獵火雞
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