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官網上 PZB 的對戰最慘烈.' K: n' m' X6 s* f

- s& X- r4 R! O日本玩家進展最好的Sneer  & Raverdave 的對戰, 此公打下中國 + 印度 外加 珍珠港." [9 h6 Y3 t$ Z. B7 {! ]1 W
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[ 本帖最后由 wildcat 于 2006-12-6 17:45 编辑 ]
原帖由 浆糊 于 2006-12-6 17:37 发表. a2 }* D+ v2 R# r' d6 D
楼上的推荐几个精彩战报的链接吧,我等去拜读一下
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# D' G3 W' z, g3 o4 r2 shttp://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=679803 (PzB vs wobbly)
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http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=997347 (Andy vs PzB)
原帖由 逍遥 于 2006-12-6 19:14 发表
; g& g" |. R! G( wPzB的战报里面有几个很奇怪的地方。. y+ r" f. N5 {* O4 d
他的KB似乎损失很重,而美军的航母好像没有受到太大的杀伤。
9 o# W6 b3 @( q% B$ ]) j还有一个,他提到美军的BB只剩了10艘左右,这个也不知道具体的情况。
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战报太长了,找不到战斗的详细情况。 ...
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目前 PzB 跟  Sneer 都遇到相同的問題. 就是 43 年後 A2A 不管日方經驗&機數佔優勢,在面對 F6F + F4U 的 CAP 下, 損失非常慘重, j; i1 @: v  D; W: J- m4 M

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/26/43
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5 u0 K! [7 b& _# yTF 1162 encounters mine field at Darwin (36,84)
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* M/ q, ?4 A# dAllied Ships 0 A: @/ ~! m# f0 B# T" U2 n+ ~- X1 [3 R
MSW Cromer . p. t3 o' d  h
MSW Goulburn $ Y4 s3 j" m' l' q
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ASW attack at 37,69
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Japanese Ships 8 A) m  O. K1 q! r5 S  @* h
PC Ch 22
2 p, b( P) H4 G0 F, P3 U: fPC Ch 20 " C# ?  N; w7 k6 u; p
PG Taiko Maru 8 E# I( K6 V* `( ]+ Y4 U
PG Shosei Maru
2 b. }- a! o7 H  MPG Seiko Maru
0 O# M; {$ P! X& |" dPG Keiko Maru
1 p& z  j' G$ Z2 B4 {/ lPG Aso Maru
8 z* V! s- e- @: Y; ^% d/ w) ePG Tamo Maru #7 * r8 _7 B9 x6 n. J9 C: a& T
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Allied Ships % S* j# w7 V; ^7 Y  N+ _: T$ L
SS O23 " D" M: L$ C8 a- |5 ^
  
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; Y/ U2 O; B* {* m* S8 WDay Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78
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: B' Q% i& E1 |7 D2 l  BAllied aircraft ; q* O7 H+ [, ~/ J0 h6 o8 d
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3 0 W; N# \5 |4 |/ K  M  a
F-5A Lightning x 2 " k! [  G! ~- L- t
B-25J Mitchell x 135 - k  z. \4 G  l( h5 T- r! Y1 F+ Y
  
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Allied aircraft losses & }9 z8 H8 b( Y
B-25J Mitchell: 9 damaged # {! L6 [9 Y& E
  
( i! `. y7 H8 u3 P1 u, t6 XJapanese ground losses: " t: L& B( z* n
163 casualties reported
( \, Y3 m. `" S3 V/ F, zGuns lost 1
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Airbase hits 6
( ?: I! `. B/ l# i0 |4 PAirbase supply hits 3
& g2 A7 O  f, }7 WRunway hits 126
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Aircraft Attacking:
8 A& n" A$ s9 ^, l* j3 \6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
# y. F) {# W5 L  D3 x4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
) \+ L2 U4 a9 X+ g. m0 F9 y3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
6 t* n' Y/ k$ J3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
! j' h2 ]3 v+ N: M. H16 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet # n$ a0 ?: b- B: i
24 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
" A3 [6 B0 ^8 C5 C* J& a13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 5 ~$ j5 E7 E" G$ S7 R% X
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
+ l( X4 A- k# o* _3 o% T* u3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 3 M8 e/ O2 w' X7 z
10 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 G& S6 J, Z" B. l13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
- |  S' d3 M0 t! x: ~1 v6 s5 Z3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
) U  U: v% G# j* ]2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ) N7 P0 i$ K8 e" S
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
" H; z, r5 f; z* N% b/ l6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
9 _! E! @! D) h1 S- {2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet : F' j! {; y. m+ K" @
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
: n3 y* c. r  C5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 3 D" W, s8 `  X! ]: O, \% G
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet # c" r' Q! g$ h
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
$ r" Q" n" {8 S! L; z% z3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet + A5 X3 Q7 x3 A: m* H5 g6 b
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet * M* u8 l- U& r/ g' }
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# V1 j8 G1 a0 t0 ZDay Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53
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Japanese aircraft # a) n2 v5 n" w! u: a0 }" \7 S
D3A Val x 54 9 G0 J/ Z0 t. h# ]9 S
A6M5c Zeke x 47
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+ ]) M0 v0 `5 |7 \No Japanese losses - x$ I$ n* M( X* f( ^( U
  
+ @1 C( A, D3 |Runway hits 30 % t. K+ M% k+ Y% f% V$ W3 G
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Aircraft Attacking:
" N" C% f4 f+ R  c# d- x27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
. b" o6 A9 {4 u& n27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 7 ?' s0 h) l, b1 H* C5 K7 T
47 x A6M5c Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
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A6M5 Zeke x 84
% O) I. Z: D9 z- q2 {D3A Val x 98
' g; ^1 H' g% g, ^! jD4Y Judy x 95
( a1 n4 n. Q+ V4 fB5N Kate x 129 9 o$ X, ~6 a4 L) d, I. t
B6N Jill x 47 0 n  M4 ^# U8 U. K) U3 R% ~& Z
  
- S; w. L# }% f0 W: D  l5 A* GAllied aircraft , S+ M1 P' b: @$ ]9 Q
F6F Hellcat x 147 , D  d0 @7 o; T' V; R4 z+ |1 x1 {
Corsair IV x 24   d5 l5 `9 _& V; ^, U, x- ^% e
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Japanese aircraft losses
7 h! Y2 ]. R' @/ qA6M5 Zeke: 84 destroyed
4 W! q) |, |3 t' _D3A Val: 73 destroyed
  m$ Q) |! q2 y! Z7 @. ]; oD4Y Judy: 72 destroyed
8 U  s+ R4 z' F$ r+ S3 G; LB5N Kate: 106 destroyed
' |: A, Q: w% D! uB6N Jill: 40 destroyed " F: V: i1 Y! j9 O4 ]" @$ E
  
# O0 C) [( s8 K) @3 U8 }+ q5 IAllied aircraft losses 8 M$ H/ s5 T" b
F6F Hellcat: 27 destroyed, 10 damaged ; w5 n( L0 c  C, k
Corsair IV: 1 damaged " q8 b' p# U: A+ `8 K$ J7 X7 ]
  
8 G" Q& L0 H. d6 |, UAllied Ships
( E" [( m) ~! Z! ECVL Cabot
/ l4 [0 x9 y( h- C+ FCV Illustrious, Bomb hits 1
- [. q' _9 I* V- P) P0 P0 vCV Formidable
# e3 b1 b) u4 \( t. pCVL Langley
; d' T9 ^  A# c* ?CLAA San Diego
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Aircraft Attacking:
% W  O- h8 G  e6 H& e1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
4 B# p0 f- q$ t# G) a3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
. R' G* w9 j1 }$ K2 N4 ^- P) Y6 j1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
3 {8 W2 i# y& X# I3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet / L3 s' B- g2 q/ j) _
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet / B: g# O- K) f; o$ Q$ ]" X
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet / g- e4 i, L4 h: {( z8 [7 i
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
+ o% ]: H3 g2 ]" `- Z- A' n9 K4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
: O" P- U5 R  M2 s1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet . A& Z. T  j; x2 V6 k! ^; ^
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
& d3 ^0 ~) o5 W2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet + i) w+ o$ ?7 j; Y, }, ^9 F
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet " e* G! l1 }6 K% |6 e
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
6 S% J& n2 y/ j" W. A& g4 q# }) g  ~( Y) r4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
! r, f3 l" F( Z3 W+ k8 \5 x6 v% H4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet . O8 I' q5 Z6 e  T9 M
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
$ Z% Z+ K6 c! u) `; \/ W6 G6 s2 c) l9 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
8 z& C5 a0 ~$ S3 }0 K9 p0 }! P) T3 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
, B' o& y- z- {1 k0 ?8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 0 X( m4 m' G: h
6 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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7 f% e/ _5 x2 W4 e! dDay Air attack on TF at 14,79 , r+ }- G" u0 ?+ o
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Japanese aircraft ( T, X* J3 ^7 G% e$ E0 {+ o
A6M5 Zeke x 6 9 n; Y3 k' d$ D/ e! _
D4Y Judy x 27
; H* [0 q5 C, Y( P- Q# v. C" GA6M3a Zero x 9 8 F( c8 Z* Q% N' A$ Q# N4 L
B5N Kate x 18 ) O/ c" `* m1 N5 S  ~
  
% f5 A0 f1 W, m  u$ LAllied aircraft
2 a0 k$ X0 I; Y& o, dF6F Hellcat x 120 5 o* _1 _& }6 l1 Q$ j
Corsair IV x 24 ; Y. T/ g# e2 l. T, }$ p& @8 W
  
: X* R6 M7 v, X2 |( V3 HJapanese aircraft losses 8 @1 A$ f# I/ s
A6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed 8 b) g6 b  \5 d# s8 ]9 N4 u
D4Y Judy: 20 destroyed
. N6 v! L! v; t7 U5 `7 r) QA6M3a Zero: 7 destroyed . Q. A7 _$ Z" _1 J4 T. Q
B5N Kate: 17 destroyed 6 T' n# F. Z( Z- Q( _  L+ {
  
4 V7 s) P, ^7 H  KAllied aircraft losses
2 V+ D; }9 P* m9 e( t- bF6F Hellcat: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
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Allied Ships
$ C/ t4 s1 }& D/ a( W0 R2 A2 XCV Intrepid, Bomb hits 1
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' n* j1 u5 Q4 l5 [- p' `Aircraft Attacking: ! c% H0 g- \! F) T& J" W% p
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
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Japanese aircraft + y9 f  [! |* g# S2 Q4 M
A6M5 Zeke x 9
+ f1 I0 r3 N, m" X4 y( K* pD3A Val x 9 ' R) ?* W1 @+ Y& r  p* m
D4Y Judy x 27 * S. V3 I# _- }/ m# y+ y1 g
B5N Kate x 18 # @' x  c" q" m* c
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Allied aircraft ; v; ^. i9 H. O1 w7 c8 q; A+ c
F6F Hellcat x 115
, o/ H7 a6 ]* r4 z9 GCorsair IV x 24
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Japanese aircraft losses
& K5 Y6 `# q7 ZA6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed
! R0 C+ S5 i5 S8 h6 j2 z2 p+ ]5 ND3A Val: 9 destroyed & {0 ^- g( Q6 L2 d4 \) A
D4Y Judy: 21 destroyed
6 S, C7 K/ K) MB5N Kate: 10 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses
. m( `% @. \1 l" v. SF6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed
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Allied Ships
' k1 {. w. E6 j3 e! _( z: ?7 f& JCV Bunker Hill, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
( E/ `0 ]4 q' J% M3 UDD Sampson, Bomb hits 2,  on fire ' ~0 w. K8 l8 [0 Q8 }/ ^+ \( z" w+ k( B
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Aircraft Attacking: 0 q# Y4 F2 a+ t) ^% X3 _, l" M7 ^
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
, Y( W$ c# M) r' t2 G8 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
# A1 Y+ w% g$ l9 g7 x5 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet   m% c# h) m6 J' M$ v
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( U" w) ]1 U( S" k/ CDay Air attack on TF at 14,79
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Japanese aircraft
% J5 e) q/ C7 D8 G* T4 |! [1 {3 SG4M1 Betty x 6
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Allied aircraft
7 S/ {2 ?( ?) s" M" MF6F Hellcat x 98
6 b4 S. G$ o3 h9 a. HCorsair IV x 23 , {% i% ?1 i. W, X4 x; E
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Japanese aircraft losses   _7 }. Z# [" L( E) h$ o5 o
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed 8 j9 M9 i& f# ^" r( q
  
# B) q9 r* S2 q1 R7 D6 `' WAllied aircraft losses
' L, `0 F, t3 B* sF6F Hellcat: 1 damaged 7 S7 j5 V. j9 T5 y* W
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 1 H# ?& U4 v9 `* U0 y
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Japanese aircraft & s# \0 s6 q$ {* u7 b2 p& f) h
G4M1 Betty x 3 3 P2 z2 I6 c0 y
  
  x7 D& F6 q2 q' dAllied aircraft
# b, {* j) u1 N8 w/ \F6F Hellcat x 98
6 i+ N- B+ ]4 V' s/ zCorsair IV x 23 : P4 n1 i) j1 ^% o' @; d
  
/ c$ u' K- V! u5 c6 P& e) F. IJapanese aircraft losses
1 E; g$ F) k4 DG4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
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Japanese aircraft
9 u. S2 R# _4 \- ~3 u6 h" z. OA6M5 Zeke x 50 / E0 H% n6 \5 \+ V  }5 b4 ~. O: D
D3A Val x 15 - g1 t% \) E  ^. N
D4Y Judy x 15 # m$ g" M0 ^+ V
A6M3a Zero x 6
( X/ S( F! k/ W" d( U6 T& PB5N Kate x 17
' {+ V9 l* j6 H+ z1 K* CB6N Jill x 2
  z/ i" n) e3 ]$ D% x4 q  
- ~- ^1 m1 r6 z! q$ k4 Q- H5 z+ _; UAllied aircraft
* V4 c5 m% s3 S  C" l) bF6F Hellcat x 98 : y2 K2 d3 Z2 F; A
Corsair IV x 23
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Japanese aircraft losses
$ D" t' }" M5 F# mA6M5 Zeke: 50 destroyed ! O* N  ?" f3 |. g7 w3 s9 ?
D3A Val: 12 destroyed
. K' s' L; n3 ~/ W3 Z! z3 r" J2 _D4Y Judy: 9 destroyed & z7 `  }- o+ M
A6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed
) i% T4 X( b+ S: f. wB5N Kate: 16 destroyed
% u+ e1 S" K# N! w4 hB6N Jill: 2 destroyed
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$ q* x, `+ z  ~) D" DAllied aircraft losses $ l# _( B2 ~, G; M- a
F6F Hellcat: 15 destroyed, 9 damaged * z- v4 x' b6 O! ]; F" _
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed $ v7 o& @6 m8 y# A
  
$ N" J6 G+ h4 X$ s6 G; n$ JAllied Ships
8 ~7 p) f/ v9 `. @- Z1 OCV Formidable $ S# ~) g+ m% W+ I9 U4 T6 p. }# R- `3 v
CV Illustrious , w& D) O. l1 V1 w) Z) W
CVL Cabot , l* y" r9 G6 u) U- ~
  
) |/ o- ^" a1 A0 d' LAircraft Attacking:
5 [6 y4 R' Y" k4 h1 j0 m' d2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet . Y* x% Q* s3 ?0 h
1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 e7 s$ s3 f, J  A5 F# G0 y1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet  
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. j+ e1 t7 m% l; ~# w[ 本帖最后由 wildcat 于 2006-12-7 11:07 编辑 ]
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-6 18:23 发表
5 L1 l4 b1 d8 }2 \PzB vs wobbly的我一直有看,他的战报既详细又配图,sneer的无图,不知道哪个位置说打下印度、中国和珍珠港,不过现在盟军已反攻到印度的詹谢谱儿了
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, 看太多戰報,  可能記錯了. 應該是Sneer 另一個戰報吧. 原諒我
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-7 11:10 发表
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& j" ?3 r' t" C这个例子里日方护航机数量太少了,面对接近200架F6F能突防就不错了
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80+ exp 的 Zero 52 型 vs 60+ exp F6F 打成這樣. 真像獵火雞
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