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官網上 PZB 的對戰最慘烈.1 F% K, f; N3 ?

1 m% y7 Q! q% W' ]3 j" @1 M0 P日本玩家進展最好的Sneer  & Raverdave 的對戰, 此公打下中國 + 印度 外加 珍珠港.
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# N( I: _, J# w& @0 X; p( ^[ 本帖最后由 wildcat 于 2006-12-6 17:45 编辑 ]
原帖由 浆糊 于 2006-12-6 17:37 发表
2 r) e4 |0 c8 I4 Y3 F% r1 c楼上的推荐几个精彩战报的链接吧,我等去拜读一下
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http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=988842 (sneer vs Raver)
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0 L; X8 W6 z! l( r; }3 g0 bhttp://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=679803 (PzB vs wobbly)
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5 W! q2 y! _' h- t" x; ^: t' o2 ~http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=997347 (Andy vs PzB)
原帖由 逍遥 于 2006-12-6 19:14 发表
1 F# D0 [, B$ ~+ i6 W: P. sPzB的战报里面有几个很奇怪的地方。
4 U% ~! j5 B1 Z  s/ s; p5 c$ a他的KB似乎损失很重,而美军的航母好像没有受到太大的杀伤。8 ?# {! L# v" n- k3 }; u
还有一个,他提到美军的BB只剩了10艘左右,这个也不知道具体的情况。3 m1 [% ~# ]& q) `+ o5 ~
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战报太长了,找不到战斗的详细情况。 ...
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目前 PzB 跟  Sneer 都遇到相同的問題. 就是 43 年後 A2A 不管日方經驗&機數佔優勢,在面對 F6F + F4U 的 CAP 下, 損失非常慘重
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這在CV 對戰中, 對日方不利9 [8 ]+ N" d4 v' S
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/26/43
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- j/ d( n% r2 \' @TF 1162 encounters mine field at Darwin (36,84) 5 Z: s( E6 K% N( e9 S% Y0 {
  
6 B4 A4 D6 e7 C$ A7 C/ Q$ HAllied Ships + a2 @! g( [7 e9 r
MSW Cromer $ ^% P* L9 M; k. |
MSW Goulburn % B% `& L+ Z9 U  N
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ASW attack at 37,69
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Japanese Ships
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PG Taiko Maru
8 v+ e* T( A1 I1 O4 h) RPG Shosei Maru
0 d% o0 v3 I# xPG Seiko Maru ) k: l  T: \' H& j0 ]) y, U- u
PG Keiko Maru
0 A# L! O3 i- K, V/ ?PG Aso Maru
4 u4 M- j: U$ |5 T) H8 L; DPG Tamo Maru #7   f. @; j6 F7 L+ c) e
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Allied Ships ) w1 ^1 Z! t- R% i: c: K
SS O23
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Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78
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Allied aircraft ; K; W. |5 _& y" C
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3
4 T7 A  z- G7 ~; {F-5A Lightning x 2
5 B4 ^. l7 W$ M' e: J* Y5 I6 VB-25J Mitchell x 135 , y0 m5 t+ y7 P& y
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, w8 H) x* h$ R9 [5 uAllied aircraft losses 9 |2 w, h2 E* P: c+ e3 F, g/ |1 W& T
B-25J Mitchell: 9 damaged 9 u0 a* E  b, m7 ?* I. ^" r( v
  
9 s4 O9 a. b) Y4 L% j: B0 D  q5 oJapanese ground losses:
7 {  X4 S# ~. @: r; i# v- s163 casualties reported 1 \3 [8 V$ v% o9 G
Guns lost 1 : S# o6 d3 Z; E+ I5 G, i; ]$ g
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Airbase hits 6
' A1 q, c9 Q8 j+ E8 o0 ~; JAirbase supply hits 3 + g0 y+ `( \* X8 ?' G5 R" P4 D
Runway hits 126
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Aircraft Attacking:
2 d1 g2 T+ _" j* }' l# _6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 5 O5 O+ b/ g3 M0 ]
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 4 p: ^% u& ~6 k  e) B) J
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
6 r9 S. f5 a$ G% F" a- I# @# d, q3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet / S) ~9 o1 N- R2 V$ e  V
16 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
7 W. V" P: ~. s- f4 |5 e24 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 7 Q" z( S0 v# X0 p8 w
13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ( V$ |$ A( L% i2 W8 r
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
* h! E& q' E+ s& G+ N3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ; f0 s6 p! `  c' g6 @
10 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 5 [. }6 h9 p- ]  v% p! q  O
13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
6 A' ^6 c: x3 z$ E- R4 J3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 9 `; C$ V, G1 f6 A' B( B
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
0 X: j$ |' k+ v$ }' N, o3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet * p4 P' c' [( d) d% F2 Q
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 0 F% h7 k9 E3 Z( t$ l) A
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
6 s$ i/ D9 k; u5 \6 k6 D& ]4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
) n2 w. j7 W" V% l) ]( \8 a5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
% W3 e# S; n! _2 X/ N4 K2 |0 \( j3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet + X. O3 E$ w# r: _0 y7 e
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
6 j8 p' c! H- l3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
' ~3 i3 I3 j# Q! e* J2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 3 f; K( ?  _; U) U1 A
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) c1 n% r) |& H* T3 l) rDay Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53
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0 }6 x0 w. V& c+ u0 zJapanese aircraft
. L$ I, h( _2 d+ ]* `D3A Val x 54 2 @; b1 q$ B; N5 m& V; C3 j
A6M5c Zeke x 47 0 r/ g* Y: a9 F- `
  
1 p( T; J, P( H* lNo Japanese losses ) N5 g! H% t( j$ Q, K
  
6 ^. N- |* V" B' |' \3 G- L  B! m! IRunway hits 30 # G+ x* Y- s* H' J. F
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Aircraft Attacking: 7 \: T/ a: E+ k$ z- s
27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet $ E/ B9 }2 a# F) Q7 z
27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 5 s" M7 q; `$ j2 i3 l- e
47 x A6M5c Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 ! R! F3 l& E9 K* g8 h+ i. o0 n
  
. q3 e2 M; R6 oJapanese aircraft 7 b6 C$ F* O6 r+ u$ I9 o
A6M5 Zeke x 84
/ Y  r: s7 J  A. ~4 qD3A Val x 98 % q9 `; e$ H3 E
D4Y Judy x 95 + l$ Q  X# B( G7 X
B5N Kate x 129
3 r, N9 U2 r" A' Y- rB6N Jill x 47
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$ I' [* k7 Z# }Allied aircraft ; c# J  ~( p! F! f- r& m; C
F6F Hellcat x 147 4 s- }+ @4 ?+ j" }, B/ p
Corsair IV x 24
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% b, j, i1 ?/ w. y% o+ t- rA6M5 Zeke: 84 destroyed * N  K% X$ V4 K9 H/ H
D3A Val: 73 destroyed
! a! ^- h7 W- K- U. N0 O) P7 ID4Y Judy: 72 destroyed
3 |) l: ?! S9 U. z9 mB5N Kate: 106 destroyed
  ~+ M  @0 O, J" Q/ ~* r) vB6N Jill: 40 destroyed ' T  i: L5 r3 M
  
  D6 X9 Z& q# f2 ]- }/ \Allied aircraft losses 5 T$ s/ x; ]! D6 h
F6F Hellcat: 27 destroyed, 10 damaged
3 O; p  V1 p$ D4 nCorsair IV: 1 damaged . c6 o% F7 {% z+ {
  
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CVL Cabot # I0 {* G8 M' \3 k2 M6 D) a
CV Illustrious, Bomb hits 1 . h6 _) S% Z% n' r. L4 Q+ S
CV Formidable 5 `- M# y2 ]/ W: G, y& S
CVL Langley . Y5 R  T$ F( B% f
CLAA San Diego 5 X! r" L: d! F: P0 I
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Aircraft Attacking:
7 v$ g% U( v/ l0 Z) w* k. @* F" H, J1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet : {+ A/ \: A+ E$ k
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet 8 q: x, U( o3 ^$ P. D
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
" O; \2 f# s7 i5 F/ a" t3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet 3 G6 y7 w* Y. u
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 0 c8 ?8 D, e# ]* n
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet - X' Y3 m8 E- H  E4 H" a' J, W
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet ( m8 I. ?0 R( H8 [1 x" _: E
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet & Q- X; Q1 ?+ f9 d
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet 9 e% d! b% r3 n' N* x
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet ; J' j: s2 M+ }* i. a( X
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
, T/ w$ L0 S% R* R2 t3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
/ w" a5 ]- d; o/ ~1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
! d% p& \, I' t" B- q8 R4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 5 r" `. q' R; Z0 q5 g6 I# y! y
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
1 B! a1 N* P# R% E6 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet / }: f- B6 A, N% ?" K- v
9 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet $ n. e9 u" i- g! N, @
3 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
# u+ I3 {, F3 ?0 \/ N8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 I3 _% A" Q+ I( q* M$ V
6 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet ' h: e7 G+ W) W: J
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3 M3 J4 z% g; EDay Air attack on TF at 14,79
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Japanese aircraft , U" r% k6 A* g! ?
A6M5 Zeke x 6 . I0 `; i& `0 S& F% t/ ?% x$ Q% J
D4Y Judy x 27 + n. [3 i/ g3 V5 ~; Y
A6M3a Zero x 9
" i) a- h; s3 u8 R+ QB5N Kate x 18
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Allied aircraft
) ?$ h5 K4 G( }0 ZF6F Hellcat x 120 ; m5 b: C$ a1 c
Corsair IV x 24
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  k( X7 B2 Q" {5 G; @/ v2 YJapanese aircraft losses - D: p  c9 Y& P4 f
A6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed ) y* f& G# m& A# `0 a/ S( K
D4Y Judy: 20 destroyed ) o# u( j9 F8 M, V) p% ^
A6M3a Zero: 7 destroyed
1 ~/ g' C1 s' f2 n! p7 R, [B5N Kate: 17 destroyed ; M+ V" s, ^2 H# X: |
  
5 q& g8 _+ j8 {2 ^; y; oAllied aircraft losses 0 q4 l) u& x" m
F6F Hellcat: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged . |1 v' s+ H" y+ f0 B0 \
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Allied Ships ( ~. H8 w: @' v( U5 C
CV Intrepid, Bomb hits 1 4 s9 A0 j2 ^5 b; K! Q, v7 y
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Aircraft Attacking:
8 K0 j& C& W4 J+ \8 R9 [" a1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 4 m1 R2 `3 l: z/ g
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 ( q/ j) E5 }# {3 m
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Japanese aircraft : H/ c  y6 R1 |
A6M5 Zeke x 9
) S0 G% k- [( @4 ^D3A Val x 9 0 u. ^/ j, G3 |3 z8 \) a
D4Y Judy x 27
. `* G  G  L- AB5N Kate x 18
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Allied aircraft % l$ ?1 j" M. l
F6F Hellcat x 115 9 \( h! ]! ]$ N" \2 o
Corsair IV x 24 9 |4 I% E. r8 e+ e4 T
  
! d9 W0 K5 g( V" M8 i5 |* C2 RJapanese aircraft losses 7 n. C2 J. `- E: x  S4 g4 H
A6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed ; j$ c9 f" f1 f' A: }6 b
D3A Val: 9 destroyed & w$ }* H7 f# D( T6 J
D4Y Judy: 21 destroyed 9 a: a0 r+ I5 l7 S& ~1 b) K
B5N Kate: 10 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses + L1 B- J( v# Y9 U, p; L
F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed ) E# F# G' ~) G9 ^7 n5 r; J
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Allied Ships % c, ^% T3 A" A2 ^2 b2 n5 D
CV Bunker Hill, Bomb hits 1,  on fire $ d/ G. w; z3 y8 ]; X/ @
DD Sampson, Bomb hits 2,  on fire
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Aircraft Attacking:
, O" r1 o; E3 Z) B# Z- C1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
1 g$ n& m0 ]# T: `5 }8 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet ! T5 y/ j5 ]; W- i" f  v6 ?
5 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet   e0 y1 k4 b, U" l( r( P4 j
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2 T' D' b2 P" [Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 6 c$ A8 p  l! I2 X8 s- A% I7 M
  
! S: K7 Y; d0 C' `; F' PJapanese aircraft
8 O7 n7 h1 P/ h( f8 _6 ^G4M1 Betty x 6
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9 Y5 M2 H1 h0 N! ^F6F Hellcat x 98 ) Q* F2 {/ @% g( j, L9 H# Y
Corsair IV x 23
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; p& k1 R9 v0 W9 D8 C2 o0 Q  vJapanese aircraft losses ; f0 ~+ O" J4 c
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses ; Y- T* f0 g  J( E$ y
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 ; z; I& b5 f" C- ]- w$ f
  
; p$ y) |% Y6 ]4 ?; CJapanese aircraft
6 F( F' c8 T$ Q8 P8 T9 QG4M1 Betty x 3 & K6 T' V1 Q) Z6 O2 I. J$ s2 q
  
+ A' l% M$ ?3 qAllied aircraft 3 T8 E; A6 z" K2 a1 I9 X
F6F Hellcat x 98 6 U, v! c; n, E4 ]% I# o
Corsair IV x 23 1 L3 L2 _) X3 a# l, i! }
  
. A3 p1 t2 }# m) v+ rJapanese aircraft losses + s* O! x8 h% H
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed # ?# |; ], Y0 [# d# B5 q9 i
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
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) _) A# R: O. t  G. tJapanese aircraft
+ _" z0 z) L( h3 |A6M5 Zeke x 50 ) |; K$ |( V3 d: d* M! M/ n
D3A Val x 15
, {$ k* j4 n- CD4Y Judy x 15
& N: o4 d: Z! F1 EA6M3a Zero x 6
9 {; e6 b8 a# q8 x4 r" eB5N Kate x 17 ) o$ S! C4 l% Y
B6N Jill x 2
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! O" Z2 {" e. ]% _: |Allied aircraft ( }, N' m. r7 O2 H& F
F6F Hellcat x 98
/ l. U* E0 W' D. X: ]) }Corsair IV x 23
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Japanese aircraft losses
( ^% a! \' c8 j7 k+ F6 d8 h- OA6M5 Zeke: 50 destroyed 8 c( J7 D- N4 L" m3 m; L
D3A Val: 12 destroyed
" |# h2 P4 H% N9 z* SD4Y Judy: 9 destroyed
" U1 ?9 E# Y; U5 e8 m. {( oA6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed 0 @) w7 s* F9 a' H- d* I
B5N Kate: 16 destroyed 7 R, R$ Q% ?. G) e2 _6 Y6 T
B6N Jill: 2 destroyed & b, j: d( z- L' k& ^5 Z! C
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Allied aircraft losses " _0 d2 ?; [, B6 F! Y: F4 r$ H
F6F Hellcat: 15 destroyed, 9 damaged
: ~% p6 v2 A6 L2 ^Corsair IV: 1 destroyed
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CV Formidable
2 v* U& l! g7 h, n. GCV Illustrious 7 z, D" ]  `. i; R2 Q7 U
CVL Cabot 9 d8 W( H) e, x6 U
  
8 n+ r6 p) ~# w; T* ?6 iAircraft Attacking:
2 |7 q  e2 d! ]. K2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet ; T+ @% b! E- D  D5 c$ |
1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet - E% z8 h( J1 {7 C/ j' O
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet  
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* `& ]1 }- R8 Y. ~0 r[ 本帖最后由 wildcat 于 2006-12-7 11:07 编辑 ]
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-6 18:23 发表: _2 `, D* S" p6 L; L" M
PzB vs wobbly的我一直有看,他的战报既详细又配图,sneer的无图,不知道哪个位置说打下印度、中国和珍珠港,不过现在盟军已反攻到印度的詹谢谱儿了
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, 看太多戰報,  可能記錯了. 應該是Sneer 另一個戰報吧. 原諒我
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-7 11:10 发表& l  i5 X1 a2 @& ^# y1 T
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+ O7 J5 s1 |3 X$ D; q5 b3 @这个例子里日方护航机数量太少了,面对接近200架F6F能突防就不错了
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80+ exp 的 Zero 52 型 vs 60+ exp F6F 打成這樣. 真像獵火雞
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