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官網上 PZB 的對戰最慘烈.
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日本玩家進展最好的Sneer  & Raverdave 的對戰, 此公打下中國 + 印度 外加 珍珠港.1 T) t: a5 g7 A% t
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[ 本帖最后由 wildcat 于 2006-12-6 17:45 编辑 ]
原帖由 浆糊 于 2006-12-6 17:37 发表5 p8 u( a6 X1 y+ z9 c$ E1 k6 s, T
楼上的推荐几个精彩战报的链接吧,我等去拜读一下
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# a, I. ~/ S$ \0 Y' [3 E. ?  Fhttp://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=988842 (sneer vs Raver)
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http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=679803 (PzB vs wobbly)! X4 H; r2 }1 G2 |8 ?

9 E. u; t* O6 L5 ]+ w( D+ v4 w' ghttp://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=997347 (Andy vs PzB)
原帖由 逍遥 于 2006-12-6 19:14 发表
: `, m3 l" j8 ]- a/ A% b* H( T- VPzB的战报里面有几个很奇怪的地方。$ W' o2 J; V% u- M+ X
他的KB似乎损失很重,而美军的航母好像没有受到太大的杀伤。
7 k' Y5 p# d  S2 v7 R/ ?还有一个,他提到美军的BB只剩了10艘左右,这个也不知道具体的情况。
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战报太长了,找不到战斗的详细情况。 ...
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5 A6 I) @, @) s5 ?; N目前 PzB 跟  Sneer 都遇到相同的問題. 就是 43 年後 A2A 不管日方經驗&機數佔優勢,在面對 F6F + F4U 的 CAP 下, 損失非常慘重
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這在CV 對戰中, 對日方不利
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/26/43
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  y& s+ ]9 b$ T* h- R  rTF 1162 encounters mine field at Darwin (36,84)
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Allied Ships 2 ~. G0 u  O# C. J5 d
MSW Cromer
( N) I( ~) N! U) L" cMSW Goulburn
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ASW attack at 37,69
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Japanese Ships ; g& {; R5 E1 e
PC Ch 22 0 \; M+ ?: ^2 j% w* J. I' U! n
PC Ch 20
# g6 l8 y& r* ?+ d* TPG Taiko Maru 3 C6 }5 I5 a* c4 @9 I+ A) v
PG Shosei Maru
' W) O. m; l" x# f" {% f5 O' gPG Seiko Maru
& P+ j, g% P3 qPG Keiko Maru , `; w/ b( |5 {+ h6 X, C
PG Aso Maru
# }. m# B8 s1 E% W. u! T, ~) KPG Tamo Maru #7
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6 \$ E9 r+ B, v$ R* _# iAllied Ships * I2 `/ ~7 f- v2 _% N
SS O23 6 f( E4 v/ c# B$ P
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7 U+ S% ?3 c+ R, L, w% s. eDay Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78 1 r/ r* l, X2 g( V( ]1 l! q
  
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Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3
1 L7 Q, F0 X& hF-5A Lightning x 2 1 d9 p" Y, O0 G6 U5 a9 P. J; i& b
B-25J Mitchell x 135
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9 X( n& `) G" }+ G- }5 NAllied aircraft losses   [, _# B- Z) a- z, X3 ~! D9 s! ]) O
B-25J Mitchell: 9 damaged : S% b& V2 O6 g4 M! y0 a
  
0 Q4 H$ A8 A0 K8 fJapanese ground losses:
. Y# a& C: r2 V& [4 C163 casualties reported
1 F2 V6 O) n# J# O0 i+ SGuns lost 1
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/ g4 h4 r7 t# v6 }$ ?( E6 OAirbase hits 6
6 z! F8 o6 [: ]Airbase supply hits 3
% m5 J# x8 n, D, YRunway hits 126 & H( U9 Z2 O/ L3 \/ W9 F9 j7 p5 k
  
) P8 I3 B7 c1 N, G3 p  |. kAircraft Attacking:
8 \1 Q4 i2 G2 K. y1 E, a: c6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet , g9 W2 V' h+ r8 `2 O: ?5 V
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
+ Y1 |1 e4 N5 }3 o3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
& ^9 @/ p2 b: N8 C) u5 o1 S1 q3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 4 z+ k8 F# ^* k2 z! N
16 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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" Q! P+ B2 [: ?8 n/ b3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ' L4 |$ z% r7 i: l
10 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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) C0 @$ w5 I, {6 |3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ' i9 u; i- N. ^2 S. k
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet " |) w5 a4 d( y8 A' W
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
8 m' z0 k: C0 B/ m# K$ Y4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet " \  I% y( ^/ ]4 Y$ r
5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
6 d2 B5 G  w9 ?/ J0 C: Y3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 2 ?8 J9 I8 `  i% a7 n' {6 b- c
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet : ^/ }/ }' f) V
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 5 Y- A% @2 l7 C4 r
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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0 Y" ^7 z0 _0 I8 t3 M  xDay Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53 9 C* v3 ]2 O3 C- K2 ~
  
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6 s/ U/ _1 Z8 D* w: aD3A Val x 54 + B# d* \5 a( x. q
A6M5c Zeke x 47 8 Q0 t+ Y- P- p+ }
  
* M# b7 Y4 l2 K' NNo Japanese losses
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Runway hits 30 + `+ f) _, d4 {, |
  
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9 j$ E5 F, y4 G27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
5 z, l/ U/ k+ j+ H27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
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A6M5 Zeke x 84 : D; E" z$ M' i  O" w( ^
D3A Val x 98
9 [0 j4 N1 ^4 G* _D4Y Judy x 95
0 g0 `- O) e: b) H% }# }% y7 jB5N Kate x 129 9 `0 d6 g3 q1 o. Y; F% Z& H
B6N Jill x 47 3 n) q4 d3 V" j- b/ f6 h
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Allied aircraft
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4 E/ e& z) ~$ \7 hCorsair IV x 24 0 y/ c+ f: G9 U9 J# a" r. y" A  t
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Japanese aircraft losses 7 {# C$ j5 M( C7 q
A6M5 Zeke: 84 destroyed - [# t" G- |& Z' J
D3A Val: 73 destroyed
: r( a4 ^0 X8 H) o+ F" dD4Y Judy: 72 destroyed
% H6 S, T' N' I1 x* r# N1 gB5N Kate: 106 destroyed * Z3 Y" K1 w* U7 x
B6N Jill: 40 destroyed : Y2 \4 C- y" Y1 g
  
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F6F Hellcat: 27 destroyed, 10 damaged * P+ F% P# y- j6 L9 f) K. n
Corsair IV: 1 damaged 2 N- C5 ~7 _. x8 r
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Allied Ships 5 u3 c7 k( ?- }
CVL Cabot
: n; o1 T1 G4 y; L8 N5 Q/ y4 RCV Illustrious, Bomb hits 1
2 E% a) p0 O) W, ^# g, c2 vCV Formidable - \3 U! q: @! q0 w( v
CVL Langley : C" t3 s; ~. Z5 \& J
CLAA San Diego
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Aircraft Attacking: + u. g, q2 }( Q" H2 e  z
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
9 A) b- C1 X- }# g: p8 S. o3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
9 B$ b+ |# D* {! H# s* G0 v1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
' R0 o$ S& {" b3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
! x/ v+ g  @" A; l; k3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet - O7 A1 L4 \4 f% J+ n
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
# o3 o/ M6 _/ q3 W% N, g3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 5 m0 h, `) {% u1 y9 k6 u
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet / d' a( W5 B4 y2 @0 H& e, a
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet * R/ W$ M- f( l$ n
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
  \+ |  G( Y+ H7 K- V7 D. D. J! l6 P2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet % o- T. H, ^% q; X+ Y
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
1 R& q/ b6 g( j" G1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
4 d+ e8 t* N: H) z0 T4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
1 f6 p6 E9 ?+ B5 `2 E. h7 H4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 3 c* f& L+ w0 K- n
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
- u- P6 y% s8 X" y4 \9 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet % A  m4 V3 u0 n3 D- |
3 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet + N; Z( P( X4 f, ~
8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet / K( [% K3 B* ^: M2 ^
6 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet 9 A  s- f- u* J6 q
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D4Y Judy x 27 & m0 x5 g1 y3 s& |4 y
A6M3a Zero x 9 & I+ Y) y2 X9 t0 n$ w' X/ p: B6 P' e
B5N Kate x 18
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Allied aircraft
+ B* g0 e+ \( \' zF6F Hellcat x 120 $ X0 U/ U0 o& U# o3 m% c! H' [, e3 I' [
Corsair IV x 24 : F% H8 ^6 s+ V2 T
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Japanese aircraft losses
& t8 E! O; u0 c1 [+ GA6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed , f9 m' T/ Y: A6 ~( Z8 [8 E
D4Y Judy: 20 destroyed
% |( S! B! p& [/ y8 ?  jA6M3a Zero: 7 destroyed * L8 M5 s' u& F; e5 A  T1 c
B5N Kate: 17 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses
4 o7 R5 H3 {7 {% g+ P4 I% ]8 ]4 W- f. pF6F Hellcat: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
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& q0 J6 ^' d) E" _, W$ |( A6 zCV Intrepid, Bomb hits 1 : _2 O+ K( b& y* B% \: k1 E
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Aircraft Attacking:
) x- A) M  b, ~& g1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
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7 \. j# K$ o% T8 N5 {. EA6M5 Zeke x 9
" v! w2 p7 u" n0 h* G- CD3A Val x 9
6 j/ r" x) g9 S: a( _/ W8 u( bD4Y Judy x 27 7 H. b. H- l' o. H1 u
B5N Kate x 18
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Allied aircraft
2 O$ w) C2 h7 N! U' M( I) gF6F Hellcat x 115
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Japanese aircraft losses 8 O! I. W( }  ]' {
A6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed
# t2 _9 |: Q; t/ C% t3 KD3A Val: 9 destroyed
, {- g4 `: ]3 R5 |D4Y Judy: 21 destroyed
' n( k0 c  F4 W$ o& `3 k6 ZB5N Kate: 10 destroyed ) i4 _" l5 h6 |/ x
  
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1 ~! j3 k$ p: c; m/ rF6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed 6 z) W" e9 d# C
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Allied Ships 6 S: I. [! d, F; @, K4 H
CV Bunker Hill, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
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Aircraft Attacking:
* L3 O2 \. V5 V' Z: q1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 m6 c5 {1 F+ e9 [/ l9 I. O8 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet . T& z& R# Z% T' j' I3 [
5 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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Japanese aircraft
" @! Y, m  v+ X3 `, zG4M1 Betty x 6 9 [: w! b- l( B& E- N' ]
  
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% s# W" `4 k4 L. {% mF6F Hellcat x 98
" |- J2 @5 ]. H$ uCorsair IV x 23 2 z6 a+ I- t# a  [
  
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G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
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8 B5 v+ O' T& e: g0 XAllied aircraft losses 6 a, i9 ]' ]! C' a
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged 5 I/ J  a0 O$ [# ]" Y5 A( \
  
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$ o) `8 J& G  A7 f6 w+ GDay Air attack on TF at 14,79 5 Q# _$ K% E) f3 U& z# R+ `
  
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G4M1 Betty x 3
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Allied aircraft ; P6 f* m: S1 W6 b' ?- @  ~) c4 v
F6F Hellcat x 98
( z" r/ H1 t' [7 _6 z- n- v6 ZCorsair IV x 23
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! U+ t. G* i6 xG4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed , A) w* Z2 S  t; }8 [$ U1 l) v2 Z
  
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% B8 [  a3 @  @% }  WDay Air attack on TF at 14,79
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Japanese aircraft
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D3A Val x 15
" ?% b9 ^) l3 z) B& M( s! `" r9 PD4Y Judy x 15 7 i+ D% l7 d5 T+ z$ H; ^
A6M3a Zero x 6
2 T% M9 [& G, |3 G$ l' zB5N Kate x 17 1 U6 f/ S& Z1 h
B6N Jill x 2 0 ^  Z/ W6 z# l( R
  
+ D3 v  z$ T+ I2 q2 DAllied aircraft
) e5 j2 @/ y7 X4 FF6F Hellcat x 98 ! j8 c- _9 w( f7 Y
Corsair IV x 23
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# C$ |' f" \: }( J+ RJapanese aircraft losses ' x$ t+ z+ z! W4 O3 B- K8 m
A6M5 Zeke: 50 destroyed
5 Z& G; @& q( y% xD3A Val: 12 destroyed
1 `* u. x  d7 qD4Y Judy: 9 destroyed
4 j# U$ X! j4 f6 B, k  ^: oA6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed : y: K! Z& a  b3 F, O+ E
B5N Kate: 16 destroyed + ?/ J9 G+ f' B3 \* `2 M
B6N Jill: 2 destroyed ' c& g2 Y! q  T9 k
  
: C. K2 q7 F$ N- v; I( ]  J. HAllied aircraft losses & ^4 ~! p3 t+ a# p9 R( r, w
F6F Hellcat: 15 destroyed, 9 damaged
1 ]  E/ v1 r) LCorsair IV: 1 destroyed
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CV Formidable & I$ q* K; \4 x* j
CV Illustrious
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Aircraft Attacking:
% f* c/ d; g% h( m5 Y+ P" N2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
! ~7 y& T) f! b2 d# I1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
5 A9 s3 s) T& Q, R7 X4 i' l* P1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet  
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% E4 q$ m+ v6 v* B[ 本帖最后由 wildcat 于 2006-12-7 11:07 编辑 ]
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-6 18:23 发表2 l) {% f, \7 R! t; M) ?3 D
PzB vs wobbly的我一直有看,他的战报既详细又配图,sneer的无图,不知道哪个位置说打下印度、中国和珍珠港,不过现在盟军已反攻到印度的詹谢谱儿了
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5 @" {5 r2 s' J4 @3 r9 g , 看太多戰報,  可能記錯了. 應該是Sneer 另一個戰報吧. 原諒我
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-7 11:10 发表
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3 \. N( t: d- h- w# A, _这个例子里日方护航机数量太少了,面对接近200架F6F能突防就不错了
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80+ exp 的 Zero 52 型 vs 60+ exp F6F 打成這樣. 真像獵火雞
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