talentpanzer

ANDY 在43年-44年 损失了过多的CV，CVL，CVE 。　　直到43年 ANDY形势还是很好的： 印度，新西兰都在手中;BB,CV 的损失相当小。 :3 C2 S' R# |. y4 ^7 g
打成这样可惜了
; c  f3 j" U3 K4 @0 g英国CV 几近全灭（将来会有补充）  44年永久损失2艘美国舰队CV   现在连BB损失也追上来了。而CVE，CVL的永久损失也达到总数10%了   接下来的TF58 将是至今战报中最弱的了（当然 还是很牛） 而KB几乎是至今战报中最完整的。的确符合FREESTYLE的梦想啊：）
2 c! Y/ l% A( F) F& i! h但日军领土前期扩张不足，且防御纵深也不够（主要 油田难以保护） 加上美军后续还有大量增援 。。。还是很艰难的。
, p  C$ y% \/ `, b如果三十万美军被困在提尼安。。。 ANDY恐怕会TJ的
3 L# J2 O) f; \/ h. m* h- e. S而且ANDY要求改房规了  应该是陆战队海盗上CVE  唉

talentpanzer

Pauk的总结我也看了 他也认为英国CV的过早 过大的永久性损失对ANDY伤害很大。 加上先前的美军舰队CV的巨大损失 使TF58的海航无法独立对抗日本陆海军航空队 其实ANDY已经改进战术了 集中了足够的陆军战力 如果不是海空失利 应该可以砸开绝对防御圈了。不过时下，美日都是两难。美军岛上有20几W人，如果攻不下或撤不走，就可以直接TJ了。所以明知是坑，也要往下跳了。不过要是真用TF58去硬拼，这可是44年5月了，每艘CV都是永久性损失了 要是和KB拼完了 将来反攻日本本土 战力吃紧。  日军呢 倒是个机会可以重创美军 不过无论是灭了（或困了）近8000AP美军或灭了 10艘以上的BB+CV 都会导致ANDY TJ 吧

talentpanzer

此战后至少Ｆ４Ｕ上船 6 g( @7 ]4 {( H& A) o. z4 a7 o
不知道原来的房规如何1 U; `3 A( }; v0 G
如果是通用房规　ＡＮＤＹ有啥理由要改呢？
# \; V4 ?( j1 A2 M当然ＡＮＤＹ的承受力是很令人敬佩的　也许幸运之神会眷恋他

talentpanzer

现在的ANDY的CVE装大量的FM2 由于没有英国CV的海盗 显然拼不过PAUK 2 V: ]$ _; l; n7 h
所以他要改房规 (当然ANDY还是有原则的 最早也要在此战后让F-4U 上CVE). n5 m2 z, j4 O
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至于TJ .....ANDY的贴子中有一点情绪 就是F-4U不上没法打了...., B- k* v8 F; h- h! j
我的意思是 : 如果这就是这批30万美军如果被困在岛上了,恐怕就可以宣告大东亚共容啦

talentpanzer

以下是ANDY的贴子* H/ \4 {+ ]6 F
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=970411&mpage=29&key=; t; R2 B! _) Z- \
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其实ANDY是个好同志!
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0 ^. [- ?1 o2 @- Z1 v% ~OK guys it will be a few days before Pauk gets a turn back I am going to stop whinging and get on with the game - its really not very nice to complain when you are in such a fascinating war.. . U+ U# W) d6 V
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I am not asking for a change in HR's at this point as it would be unfair on Pauk. , ^8 f& U0 ?6 o, u, a# |/ ~/ x5 |
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After we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other.
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What I need to do is restock my carriers and then go back in hard with just the fleet carriers.
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Andy
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-17 19:15 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

当然未必输
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talentpanzer

Ground combat at Tinian - |( _6 Z+ |/ U6 L) ~9 K; f
不幸的ANDY    May god save him!!
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Allied Deliberate attack
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/ r9 X( Q; u) ^; ^/ N  jAttacking force 254685 troops, 2397 guns, 1054 vehicles, Assault Value = 5204 2 M# M" z- g* u' p; u1 n3 c# u% V
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Defending force 113569 troops, 756 guns, 134 vehicles, Assault Value = 2455 2 h/ x2 N" o* H+ T

6 O! ]- K6 m/ dAllied max assault: 3594 - adjusted assault: 1871 6 B  X- t# s/ i, q0 m4 z

  c  O, ^: L. |" Y) q% t/ q# r3 {Japanese max defense: 2276 - adjusted defense: 3133 2 {. h4 Y) @# m* ]
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Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7) / o3 S; H+ l9 l
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Guns lost 56 % i/ _- y% f& M9 Q
Vehicles lost 4 5 T0 q( ^7 Z& R0 z( n

8 ^' X2 e( Q, c* Z" K9 |! V+ SAllied ground losses:
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另一方面PAUK 将停止对盟军AK,AP的屠杀 好让空中力量休整以待TF58“王者归来”
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. D9 S9 t$ F* }3 k! H6 [My primary goal is clearing waters around Marians and Palaus from enemy subs (KB dive bomber groups are set on 40 % ASW). I must send damaged ships to HI on repairs but i also want to re-mine Tinian . S4 l3 v* L' G; ^/ b4 q

- d' m, ^+ g# z" l0 K; E: k  [Also, reorganising my ground defence is must. Pulled out troops from Palaus, Iwo and Truk. Must move their fragments to Tinian, repair AF damage and rebuild forts9 g5 p' o( V" s0 M' o

8 }. c* E0 s. j8 i: P, T他好像蛮有信心 让30万美军定居小岛哈 2 u% s0 t7 Z/ b+ K
这小子认为 ANDY 选择了"bridge too far".  看来这厮是要乘机把ANDY的血放尽啊 就是不知道 是否也会让蝗军也把血流尽  _7 }( [( ^: k5 ]. S3 x
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-18 16:21 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

有好戏看了 为ＡＮＤＹ的承受力喝彩
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6 `) E* P; ]# m) d2 x5 c' ^2 mI feel I now have no choice its all or nothing.
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my carriers are moving extremely slowly despite being undamaged but will all be back at Wake tomorrow within the next 3 days the entire fleet will sail to death or glory I cannot leave 300,000 men on Tinian every ship I can muster is going in - I MUST secure naval superiority over the Marianas so the orders are given.
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" m& l! p9 i& d# RAll carriers will be setting sail after they have fueled the crippled Hornet will be going in with the fleet - in total 6 Fleet, 3 Light and about 25 Escort Carriers covered by 8 BB's and every destroyer I can find. ' ^$ r' [$ T" o! ^% J
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This is it death or glory.... 5 z, u/ v8 B; b7 a& U7 ]
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接下来是ＴＦ５８的最期，抑或联合舰队的末日？
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talentpanzer

是44年5月8 w4 n2 h( c* P: N
TF58据说是8BB ,6CV,3CVL,25CVE     要独立对抗KB(至今只损失1条CVE!)+12BB(可能大和在修)+无数陆航  唉  加油 盟军!
* O9 P. x4 D+ F7 s, e( U43年中还形势大好,就在43年末到44年让PAUK桑翻盘了!: `5 L8 l% k4 k9 T3 L
不过FREESTYLE不断削弱美军CV ,44年CV决战的梦想,看来还是可能的 # c6 @/ y6 V7 g# _8 O' [. x
当然,我也同意包子的说法,只要ANDY指挥,impossible is nothing!$ o* w) z$ B6 B2 r

+ U; H% X) a. o3 m' K; c[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-18 21:23 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

哈哈哈哈哈阿哈哈啊哈哈哈哈哈 7 b0 t/ [4 x' \. T6 X
ANDY在打一盘很大的麻将

talentpanzer

ANDY要拼啦
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I should have about 20 CVE's total so about capacity for 600 aircraft.
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By stripping Saratoga of Hellcats and ditching the replenishment groups I should be able to allocate about another 150 to the CVE's
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8 l- o1 D* p; W3 r; sIn total I will have 108 F4U's, 72 F6F NF's and about 450 F6F's I am not commiting any Wildcats with the fleet I cannot afford the pilot losses. % G  J, D0 J) z! }8 M: ^( r9 h
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The only reason I can do this is the 200 I did not commit in the first phase.
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Missispi sailed from Pearl to join the fleet at Wake. 5 Y4 z6 n8 ~3 h8 p2 {
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So what is the plan well its simple SEEK out and DESTROY KB. 2 ?+ p6 k+ p( F: r+ p; ]- ?
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I cannot even attempt to fight Jap LBA while KB is a threat I am therefore going to hunt KB down and destroy it if it refuses to come and fight then I will use massed bombardment TF's on Tinian until it does.
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My replenishment groups are in reasonable shape still so fuel and ammo are not an issue.
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8 B! z4 k3 s2 q1 Z* n3 I7 v2 qThis is it guys no messing straight down the middle cannons to the left cannons to the right etc etc
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In two days the fleet sails and it WILL rescue the allied armies on Tinian whatever the cost.
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日军需要做好损失2000架战机的准备啦& [" z$ C: i+ ]3 U( H
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-19 21:11 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

据说先前约定 在神风之前不把海军陆站队的海盗上CV& V, P& B5 r! @# h0 N

0 F+ ^: O4 o. p  G8 YAfter we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other.

talentpanzer

最新进展. g! I8 k; ]6 s4 x( ?
44年产5月23日- C0 i6 s9 ]7 s) `; B
PAUK桑在TINIAN 附近，海空力量联合绞杀，一日击沉敌船54条以上！
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I'm finishing the job. 54 more enemy ships are sunk today - just checked how many ships Andy lost in Marians campaign: 285 so far! App 150 of them are transports, and so far Andy lost 300-400 transports. Question for the AFBs - will that hurt Allied transport capabilities?

talentpanzer

43年5月24日5 l# M* y0 ^1 ]; b
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One more good turn for the Empire - 49 enemy ships more are now on the list! My subs and SC TFs did the main job there - enemy ships now fleeing in single TFs but my raiders intercepted them several times! Tone TF was very successful - 11 enemy ships are sunk in the night interception. BANZAI! ; X' a- r" _6 q' H
今天PAUK的CA队横扫麻里亚纳！ 盟军又被击沉49艘  大家都麻木了吧
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5 S* S; k$ |/ _1 r. p( s4 L可气的是连日本陆航都拿无辜商船做训练靶子了  是可忍 孰不可忍！ “快去告诉罗斯福，ANDY是叛徒！” - w( M$ O* ~! A8 s, Z3 U
Why not train Franks while we have time? Strike from Marians (red arrows showing day air attacks). . G2 Y$ K" _5 L: X9 W
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Day Air attack on TF at 67,64 % z/ y# ?8 {8 ?: {3 t% ~" \

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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-20 15:16 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

这倒是错怪ＡＮＤＹ了
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  C' Y/ b* r: @9 y/ T所以．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．