talentpanzer

ANDY 在43年-44年 损失了过多的CV，CVL，CVE 。　　直到43年 ANDY形势还是很好的： 印度，新西兰都在手中;BB,CV 的损失相当小。 :8 r& P" b. u4 X
打成这样可惜了& P8 ?$ Q3 u5 k, J0 o* v) r
英国CV 几近全灭（将来会有补充）  44年永久损失2艘美国舰队CV   现在连BB损失也追上来了。而CVE，CVL的永久损失也达到总数10%了   接下来的TF58 将是至今战报中最弱的了（当然 还是很牛） 而KB几乎是至今战报中最完整的。的确符合FREESTYLE的梦想啊：）
' F1 v9 A' R2 |( j( D! L) z: S但日军领土前期扩张不足，且防御纵深也不够（主要 油田难以保护） 加上美军后续还有大量增援 。。。还是很艰难的。
' [3 h9 m  @* d" b8 D5 [如果三十万美军被困在提尼安。。。 ANDY恐怕会TJ的 - }3 l( l9 i0 t4 _
而且ANDY要求改房规了  应该是陆战队海盗上CVE  唉

talentpanzer

Pauk的总结我也看了 他也认为英国CV的过早 过大的永久性损失对ANDY伤害很大。 加上先前的美军舰队CV的巨大损失 使TF58的海航无法独立对抗日本陆海军航空队 其实ANDY已经改进战术了 集中了足够的陆军战力 如果不是海空失利 应该可以砸开绝对防御圈了。不过时下，美日都是两难。美军岛上有20几W人，如果攻不下或撤不走，就可以直接TJ了。所以明知是坑，也要往下跳了。不过要是真用TF58去硬拼，这可是44年5月了，每艘CV都是永久性损失了 要是和KB拼完了 将来反攻日本本土 战力吃紧。  日军呢 倒是个机会可以重创美军 不过无论是灭了（或困了）近8000AP美军或灭了 10艘以上的BB+CV 都会导致ANDY TJ 吧

talentpanzer

此战后至少Ｆ４Ｕ上船 , D- Z" ^% n5 s% Z6 B
不知道原来的房规如何
: r- s8 M% S3 ~/ S1 V1 D如果是通用房规　ＡＮＤＹ有啥理由要改呢？ 3 i/ b3 w8 B. {! l7 e8 p( a. t
当然ＡＮＤＹ的承受力是很令人敬佩的　也许幸运之神会眷恋他

talentpanzer

现在的ANDY的CVE装大量的FM2 由于没有英国CV的海盗 显然拼不过PAUK
8 Z7 R9 ?7 u3 I. w- L  L( q# k所以他要改房规 (当然ANDY还是有原则的 最早也要在此战后让F-4U 上CVE)
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& g- P4 z! h* s# W- L4 V1 v至于TJ .....ANDY的贴子中有一点情绪 就是F-4U不上没法打了....; J) O; h3 G3 `# m
我的意思是 : 如果这就是这批30万美军如果被困在岛上了,恐怕就可以宣告大东亚共容啦

talentpanzer

以下是ANDY的贴子
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其实ANDY是个好同志!  \( W; D% ^( f; g' x

4 X" K8 B! J9 QOK guys it will be a few days before Pauk gets a turn back I am going to stop whinging and get on with the game - its really not very nice to complain when you are in such a fascinating war.. 2 x6 e3 M+ m6 Y# W
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I am not asking for a change in HR's at this point as it would be unfair on Pauk.
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- A3 f7 N' x2 ~/ B& c( wAfter we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other.
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What I need to do is restock my carriers and then go back in hard with just the fleet carriers. ) M$ a- X* V8 H
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Andy
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-17 19:15 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

当然未必输8 g. k5 w5 }6 |8 H( ~
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可是,本当:绝对赢啊!

talentpanzer

Ground combat at Tinian
9 j7 ^, U6 D( L4 u+ h( L( t* }不幸的ANDY    May god save him!! 6 S: m7 M) I3 ~- z8 A; B
杀日本鬼子啊！  A8 p0 k3 h, ~' U

1 J( m! T5 M" F  Q" }Allied Deliberate attack
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  H- _( n! D- s: m, \% IAttacking force 254685 troops, 2397 guns, 1054 vehicles, Assault Value = 5204 % Q+ I, S2 I8 s4 T: O0 [& W4 Z% g9 L* d( R

" W) d8 |- |) ADefending force 113569 troops, 756 guns, 134 vehicles, Assault Value = 2455 * C6 v0 A5 `# }$ p

4 t' p3 i7 w0 k' ]/ o1 W0 xAllied max assault: 3594 - adjusted assault: 1871 2 g1 ^( I( p( ]# W: k5 T

  E3 N- z6 P+ I, @Japanese max defense: 2276 - adjusted defense: 3133
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( n; q* W# s' z5 y8 {7 V& PAllied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7)
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4 O2 i4 N: O$ v9 b/ @5 q! _- XJapanese ground losses: " C& B) f& Q  [* U/ L% p
3892 casualties reported
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Guns lost 226
. G- U6 j- m+ QVehicles lost 94
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另一方面PAUK 将停止对盟军AK,AP的屠杀 好让空中力量休整以待TF58“王者归来”' C0 h0 }2 v* i  m( a
尤其可怕的是他以下表态 0 f( j+ O2 m4 m) v
My primary goal is clearing waters around Marians and Palaus from enemy subs (KB dive bomber groups are set on 40 % ASW). I must send damaged ships to HI on repairs but i also want to re-mine Tinian
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: {8 F4 O( n+ N! {: i' ?0 zAlso, reorganising my ground defence is must. Pulled out troops from Palaus, Iwo and Truk. Must move their fragments to Tinian, repair AF damage and rebuild forts! W# |" V! j1 ?/ ^6 y' }6 E0 p% N
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他好像蛮有信心 让30万美军定居小岛哈
! [$ B* T$ o: O# i  {0 Q这小子认为 ANDY 选择了"bridge too far".  看来这厮是要乘机把ANDY的血放尽啊 就是不知道 是否也会让蝗军也把血流尽* p8 M8 N5 Z# ~
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-18 16:21 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

有好戏看了 为ＡＮＤＹ的承受力喝彩 - o, S  B9 I3 V" Y3 F( G

/ @: f$ h+ F9 p! R1 K* Q" Q; g8 {I feel I now have no choice its all or nothing. ; }; O; n5 A- h. K5 X6 Y
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my carriers are moving extremely slowly despite being undamaged but will all be back at Wake tomorrow within the next 3 days the entire fleet will sail to death or glory I cannot leave 300,000 men on Tinian every ship I can muster is going in - I MUST secure naval superiority over the Marianas so the orders are given. ( L( E, ?8 a' T1 R4 u9 z3 V4 p% ~4 A

( @7 n8 d: A2 Q0 F9 c& A  A" b, oAll carriers will be setting sail after they have fueled the crippled Hornet will be going in with the fleet - in total 6 Fleet, 3 Light and about 25 Escort Carriers covered by 8 BB's and every destroyer I can find.
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This is it death or glory....
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/ ^. o; z# R8 }5 N接下来是ＴＦ５８的最期，抑或联合舰队的末日？
" P8 x4 v  g* E0 F# P, Y' u- s各位下注吧　ＰＡＵＫ要逆天了吗

talentpanzer

是44年5月
' b9 G$ g" B5 D, q' jTF58据说是8BB ,6CV,3CVL,25CVE     要独立对抗KB(至今只损失1条CVE!)+12BB(可能大和在修)+无数陆航  唉  加油 盟军!
9 w' }# @; K) S2 M2 j, l+ ^7 T43年中还形势大好,就在43年末到44年让PAUK桑翻盘了!8 Y% G/ I! ]0 X9 P5 n% `
不过FREESTYLE不断削弱美军CV ,44年CV决战的梦想,看来还是可能的
( M0 v5 Y% P+ K% F9 v1 E8 Y( R当然,我也同意包子的说法,只要ANDY指挥,impossible is nothing!
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-18 21:23 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

哈哈哈哈哈阿哈哈啊哈哈哈哈哈 0 `' n( u+ {% Q" I5 P. ]2 e
ANDY在打一盘很大的麻将

talentpanzer

ANDY要拼啦 & [7 t2 M. K& E' B* E- {
CVE's will take two days to arrive at Wake and I am going to wait for them.
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5 Fresh CVE's from West Coast will bring me fully up to strength with where I was a few days ago.
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$ f* F$ s1 w9 a( q' @) r. @All 5 CV's will have 40 F6F's and 36 F4U's or 80 F6F's & @  u# _# D4 s! K
3 CVL's will have 21 F6F's and 9 TBM's
: h6 e6 q) g( _4 oHornet will have 90 Helldivers. 4 j4 N' F( t+ d. g4 ^) }
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I should have about 20 CVE's total so about capacity for 600 aircraft.
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, z8 }8 s; K6 m3 P; |By stripping Saratoga of Hellcats and ditching the replenishment groups I should be able to allocate about another 150 to the CVE's   D, r: L7 H% C+ y1 R3 P

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4 c' I, I, \( x$ @( RIn total I will have 108 F4U's, 72 F6F NF's and about 450 F6F's I am not commiting any Wildcats with the fleet I cannot afford the pilot losses. / z, T% p" N9 r' u- U& Z% L

4 J' _, F' P+ V' v: f: ?1 I- a; vThe only reason I can do this is the 200 I did not commit in the first phase.
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' {% y$ f2 i& e6 g+ t( T% o+ BMissispi sailed from Pearl to join the fleet at Wake.
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So what is the plan well its simple SEEK out and DESTROY KB.
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I cannot even attempt to fight Jap LBA while KB is a threat I am therefore going to hunt KB down and destroy it if it refuses to come and fight then I will use massed bombardment TF's on Tinian until it does. 6 l" d; L$ H6 E: M' ]* c8 H: K) V
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My replenishment groups are in reasonable shape still so fuel and ammo are not an issue.
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  m0 b8 s' k3 S( U7 k- YThis is it guys no messing straight down the middle cannons to the left cannons to the right etc etc
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In two days the fleet sails and it WILL rescue the allied armies on Tinian whatever the cost.
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日军需要做好损失2000架战机的准备啦# \1 C$ ^6 w) }2 g) V

5 [7 m( p) V5 z! D# K+ F[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-19 21:11 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

据说先前约定 在神风之前不把海军陆站队的海盗上CV) y. R  B- A- ]. s& {: U4 g9 N- W
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After we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other.

talentpanzer

最新进展
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: |& `* x! J- n+ qPAUK桑在TINIAN 附近，海空力量联合绞杀，一日击沉敌船54条以上！
% F$ j2 L; X, j$ Y2 i$ X至今，日军已在Mariana 海域击沉285条敌船其中运输船150艘！不过PAUK自己也在问：
! N6 x4 d. K' x# `I'm finishing the job. 54 more enemy ships are sunk today - just checked how many ships Andy lost in Marians campaign: 285 so far! App 150 of them are transports, and so far Andy lost 300-400 transports. Question for the AFBs - will that hurt Allied transport capabilities?

talentpanzer

43年5月24日! O; O- ]( K# j" S' f

: s# A; d( H) ?One more good turn for the Empire - 49 enemy ships more are now on the list! My subs and SC TFs did the main job there - enemy ships now fleeing in single TFs but my raiders intercepted them several times! Tone TF was very successful - 11 enemy ships are sunk in the night interception. BANZAI!
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提尼安附近盟军船只 几乎被清空了
2 C2 T4 G* W+ ?# I1 V* S  \* J可气的是连日本陆航都拿无辜商船做训练靶子了  是可忍 孰不可忍！ “快去告诉罗斯福，ANDY是叛徒！” 6 h3 X2 D2 m/ y5 H( X
Why not train Franks while we have time? Strike from Marians (red arrows showing day air attacks). * x+ J1 _/ r: x, M
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Day Air attack on TF at 67,64 6 X2 y0 w0 F( \8 B: }: k! b

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Ki-84-Ia Frank x 11
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No Japanese losses
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AK Robert C. Grier, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage5 S5 [5 w+ q$ N2 U! a& ?

' \( `" X3 t2 G: ^5 |[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-20 15:16 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

这倒是错怪ＡＮＤＹ了
" ~8 ~/ t& q. J- \他和ＰＡＵＫ都提到了盟军的Ｆ６都上舰了！ （连夜战型都上了）/ {( [3 n% a5 B0 Y7 A! A' L
而ＡＮＤＹ又不想让飞行员开ＦＭ２去送死　( {, w* c9 Q: T* M, C% \( q
所以．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．