talentpanzer

ANDY 在43年-44年 损失了过多的CV，CVL，CVE 。　　直到43年 ANDY形势还是很好的： 印度，新西兰都在手中;BB,CV 的损失相当小。 :
) g) R* Q2 H0 T9 Q. S) p打成这样可惜了  t2 b$ I) I2 {; m% ?& j
英国CV 几近全灭（将来会有补充）  44年永久损失2艘美国舰队CV   现在连BB损失也追上来了。而CVE，CVL的永久损失也达到总数10%了   接下来的TF58 将是至今战报中最弱的了（当然 还是很牛） 而KB几乎是至今战报中最完整的。的确符合FREESTYLE的梦想啊：） - `; q; o( J) O3 y
但日军领土前期扩张不足，且防御纵深也不够（主要 油田难以保护） 加上美军后续还有大量增援 。。。还是很艰难的。 3 y, f7 q  U0 G, v
如果三十万美军被困在提尼安。。。 ANDY恐怕会TJ的 / f5 E( R2 D3 Q6 L( j
而且ANDY要求改房规了  应该是陆战队海盗上CVE  唉

talentpanzer

Pauk的总结我也看了 他也认为英国CV的过早 过大的永久性损失对ANDY伤害很大。 加上先前的美军舰队CV的巨大损失 使TF58的海航无法独立对抗日本陆海军航空队 其实ANDY已经改进战术了 集中了足够的陆军战力 如果不是海空失利 应该可以砸开绝对防御圈了。不过时下，美日都是两难。美军岛上有20几W人，如果攻不下或撤不走，就可以直接TJ了。所以明知是坑，也要往下跳了。不过要是真用TF58去硬拼，这可是44年5月了，每艘CV都是永久性损失了 要是和KB拼完了 将来反攻日本本土 战力吃紧。  日军呢 倒是个机会可以重创美军 不过无论是灭了（或困了）近8000AP美军或灭了 10艘以上的BB+CV 都会导致ANDY TJ 吧

talentpanzer

此战后至少Ｆ４Ｕ上船 3 `+ a1 W1 M$ k# R4 B, r( F) U
不知道原来的房规如何
2 k7 W9 U% m; Y$ w: }2 b如果是通用房规　ＡＮＤＹ有啥理由要改呢？ & H0 B+ [# Y- ]; Y9 K
当然ＡＮＤＹ的承受力是很令人敬佩的　也许幸运之神会眷恋他

talentpanzer

现在的ANDY的CVE装大量的FM2 由于没有英国CV的海盗 显然拼不过PAUK
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5 a4 `2 K5 f1 `. Y, U! x' P至于TJ .....ANDY的贴子中有一点情绪 就是F-4U不上没法打了....) _& D7 B  C8 R& P  e& a
我的意思是 : 如果这就是这批30万美军如果被困在岛上了,恐怕就可以宣告大东亚共容啦

talentpanzer

以下是ANDY的贴子8 V" f& t$ w- J
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=970411&mpage=29&key=  r! ?" h7 e( ^+ o& V/ _; ?9 R6 @5 [

$ K$ [1 ]8 ?9 b其实ANDY是个好同志!/ `' b: f2 X2 o5 w+ R6 o

6 i! U8 w) [7 m) ?* G  nOK guys it will be a few days before Pauk gets a turn back I am going to stop whinging and get on with the game - its really not very nice to complain when you are in such a fascinating war..
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4 z0 |+ c. H8 W1 i9 ^9 pI am not asking for a change in HR's at this point as it would be unfair on Pauk.
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0 ]; L! [' b4 X8 ~& U2 }After we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other. : [  [& a; R+ O, U6 i' q" ?

3 _, W' o2 K) c  d" _* N* fWhat I need to do is restock my carriers and then go back in hard with just the fleet carriers. " a5 f& Q# X# w/ N9 {' c" o1 p
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Andy
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8 u: X, l+ Q* N, U( q# `[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-17 19:15 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

当然未必输0 r5 a) y" M0 S9 ?  m9 e
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可是,本当:绝对赢啊!

talentpanzer

Ground combat at Tinian
* O9 R! o8 Y  X( N1 a+ s不幸的ANDY    May god save him!!
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Allied Deliberate attack
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' q# I; s$ S( ~& j) ~+ Z5 f0 @Attacking force 254685 troops, 2397 guns, 1054 vehicles, Assault Value = 5204
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: u3 p" k2 k% ?8 o( uDefending force 113569 troops, 756 guns, 134 vehicles, Assault Value = 2455
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7 i8 G% D' _- ?/ i7 p  Z* d* LAllied max assault: 3594 - adjusted assault: 1871
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Japanese max defense: 2276 - adjusted defense: 3133 8 S) m4 n8 f* z8 c2 T# [- `
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Vehicles lost 4 ; e1 y' L5 r$ u/ F- ?. K. h
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Vehicles lost 94
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另一方面PAUK 将停止对盟军AK,AP的屠杀 好让空中力量休整以待TF58“王者归来”
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My primary goal is clearing waters around Marians and Palaus from enemy subs (KB dive bomber groups are set on 40 % ASW). I must send damaged ships to HI on repairs but i also want to re-mine Tinian 7 A/ S$ H5 E8 @/ ?5 B/ S* d

2 U, U* Q. _( H# i6 BAlso, reorganising my ground defence is must. Pulled out troops from Palaus, Iwo and Truk. Must move their fragments to Tinian, repair AF damage and rebuild forts
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他好像蛮有信心 让30万美军定居小岛哈 - I4 C2 x+ o% l- Q; @2 C
这小子认为 ANDY 选择了"bridge too far".  看来这厮是要乘机把ANDY的血放尽啊 就是不知道 是否也会让蝗军也把血流尽: Q( H$ |8 P& T. e* U, W( f0 G# \8 ]

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talentpanzer

有好戏看了 为ＡＮＤＹ的承受力喝彩 $ [4 X& G% g7 y4 V' A& Q
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I feel I now have no choice its all or nothing. 1 K7 E$ C7 S& d: t3 \
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my carriers are moving extremely slowly despite being undamaged but will all be back at Wake tomorrow within the next 3 days the entire fleet will sail to death or glory I cannot leave 300,000 men on Tinian every ship I can muster is going in - I MUST secure naval superiority over the Marianas so the orders are given.
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# a+ j$ d) m$ `/ F1 O0 @All carriers will be setting sail after they have fueled the crippled Hornet will be going in with the fleet - in total 6 Fleet, 3 Light and about 25 Escort Carriers covered by 8 BB's and every destroyer I can find.
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, `* ^. O! X) S+ NThis is it death or glory....
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接下来是ＴＦ５８的最期，抑或联合舰队的末日？
0 P: G, O) j' d7 T. A各位下注吧　ＰＡＵＫ要逆天了吗

talentpanzer

是44年5月
  n- k  p# p" y" J; V2 _5 n" kTF58据说是8BB ,6CV,3CVL,25CVE     要独立对抗KB(至今只损失1条CVE!)+12BB(可能大和在修)+无数陆航  唉  加油 盟军!
( `4 L4 S, l# ~+ _5 R% k43年中还形势大好,就在43年末到44年让PAUK桑翻盘了!
  Q! K1 i. @' [: M- c不过FREESTYLE不断削弱美军CV ,44年CV决战的梦想,看来还是可能的 7 n' S/ h( F2 H6 @, [8 l
当然,我也同意包子的说法,只要ANDY指挥,impossible is nothing!
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5 m' L! r/ m0 H: b[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-18 21:23 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

哈哈哈哈哈阿哈哈啊哈哈哈哈哈
/ Z+ [0 H( c; i$ m, r8 nANDY在打一盘很大的麻将

talentpanzer

ANDY要拼啦 6 e6 _' v* u+ r
CVE's will take two days to arrive at Wake and I am going to wait for them.
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) d. l. L$ H% {# k" b( H' s5 Fresh CVE's from West Coast will bring me fully up to strength with where I was a few days ago. % ?0 y1 ]% ~6 p; k  F* P
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All 5 CV's will have 40 F6F's and 36 F4U's or 80 F6F's & r  e! H; O4 I' R9 ~& V) {
3 CVL's will have 21 F6F's and 9 TBM's
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6 S& L. k8 a( }) WI should have about 20 CVE's total so about capacity for 600 aircraft. # x- W6 f' v# I1 J
3 will operate F6F NF's total of 72.
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$ f8 L9 l- a; {By stripping Saratoga of Hellcats and ditching the replenishment groups I should be able to allocate about another 150 to the CVE's
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) U  y( B4 S0 [' @* e5 b7 qAll other berths will be filled with strike aircraft. # l; Y. T% c3 q$ l+ x! ?

- Y1 L8 X% }9 h2 k5 qIn total I will have 108 F4U's, 72 F6F NF's and about 450 F6F's I am not commiting any Wildcats with the fleet I cannot afford the pilot losses.   p& k1 {/ R  y+ g' D0 D

' U- Q1 y! E* IThe only reason I can do this is the 200 I did not commit in the first phase. - J$ y1 {2 C8 d& b# j  h# W

% N; M; x1 C9 K/ @; O+ q1 rMissispi sailed from Pearl to join the fleet at Wake. 3 @- A+ y6 ]' ?+ \
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So what is the plan well its simple SEEK out and DESTROY KB. * l0 Z6 d0 g; ?7 X  i3 B& C* x9 Y
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I cannot even attempt to fight Jap LBA while KB is a threat I am therefore going to hunt KB down and destroy it if it refuses to come and fight then I will use massed bombardment TF's on Tinian until it does.
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This is it guys no messing straight down the middle cannons to the left cannons to the right etc etc % X+ ^( E) I8 h; T
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In two days the fleet sails and it WILL rescue the allied armies on Tinian whatever the cost.
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. B) z( f$ x/ z# J8 G加上450架F6F  72架F6F NF
8 B9 o" X% W2 ~' n; a8 G日军需要做好损失2000架战机的准备啦
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1 n; [  g7 O  X  P1 t, h3 E5 |6 f[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-19 21:11 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

据说先前约定 在神风之前不把海军陆站队的海盗上CV! f' h/ g! p) M. D
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After we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other.

talentpanzer

最新进展. p6 E# m/ ?- W, S1 w
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PAUK桑在TINIAN 附近，海空力量联合绞杀，一日击沉敌船54条以上！ ' T( M- J  d& |, f2 z7 O
至今，日军已在Mariana 海域击沉285条敌船其中运输船150艘！不过PAUK自己也在问：
# w  s0 P0 Y0 k1 j/ }I'm finishing the job. 54 more enemy ships are sunk today - just checked how many ships Andy lost in Marians campaign: 285 so far! App 150 of them are transports, and so far Andy lost 300-400 transports. Question for the AFBs - will that hurt Allied transport capabilities?

talentpanzer

43年5月24日+ x6 i4 z6 B, r3 T

; T' M8 A! w( M0 m* POne more good turn for the Empire - 49 enemy ships more are now on the list! My subs and SC TFs did the main job there - enemy ships now fleeing in single TFs but my raiders intercepted them several times! Tone TF was very successful - 11 enemy ships are sunk in the night interception. BANZAI!
$ f& y& v; x; E$ c0 R1 N) b' \今天PAUK的CA队横扫麻里亚纳！ 盟军又被击沉49艘  大家都麻木了吧
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可气的是连日本陆航都拿无辜商船做训练靶子了  是可忍 孰不可忍！ “快去告诉罗斯福，ANDY是叛徒！”
. ?0 p$ j9 i5 `9 K% K. eWhy not train Franks while we have time? Strike from Marians (red arrows showing day air attacks).
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2 ~. ?  F( O& T4 \Day Air attack on TF at 67,64 # I- G3 Z( R# u3 R, T" z. o

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Ki-84-Ia Frank x 11 ( _, R6 o6 Z8 q: V7 A
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. [& O+ G: Y+ w+ ^  ?, W( x  _; R[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-20 15:16 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

这倒是错怪ＡＮＤＹ了
  @. d9 t4 l* s7 I  i他和ＰＡＵＫ都提到了盟军的Ｆ６都上舰了！ （连夜战型都上了）. S+ b$ O/ s. n& r( Q1 G; h
而ＡＮＤＹ又不想让飞行员开ＦＭ２去送死　( b2 \6 x1 O0 P) @& B
所以．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．