talentpanzer

ANDY 在43年-44年 损失了过多的CV，CVL，CVE 。　　直到43年 ANDY形势还是很好的： 印度，新西兰都在手中;BB,CV 的损失相当小。 :* O% n  `  ]; j2 n9 y. D1 H6 ]
打成这样可惜了
+ w6 |' k# w7 M7 Q, y: \3 g英国CV 几近全灭（将来会有补充）  44年永久损失2艘美国舰队CV   现在连BB损失也追上来了。而CVE，CVL的永久损失也达到总数10%了   接下来的TF58 将是至今战报中最弱的了（当然 还是很牛） 而KB几乎是至今战报中最完整的。的确符合FREESTYLE的梦想啊：）
9 a" [% E# F% A: ]( p但日军领土前期扩张不足，且防御纵深也不够（主要 油田难以保护） 加上美军后续还有大量增援 。。。还是很艰难的。 3 L) i% z. j3 Z; i. T% H
如果三十万美军被困在提尼安。。。 ANDY恐怕会TJ的 ' e7 k& @4 }! \' `% `" ^) i
而且ANDY要求改房规了  应该是陆战队海盗上CVE  唉

talentpanzer

Pauk的总结我也看了 他也认为英国CV的过早 过大的永久性损失对ANDY伤害很大。 加上先前的美军舰队CV的巨大损失 使TF58的海航无法独立对抗日本陆海军航空队 其实ANDY已经改进战术了 集中了足够的陆军战力 如果不是海空失利 应该可以砸开绝对防御圈了。不过时下，美日都是两难。美军岛上有20几W人，如果攻不下或撤不走，就可以直接TJ了。所以明知是坑，也要往下跳了。不过要是真用TF58去硬拼，这可是44年5月了，每艘CV都是永久性损失了 要是和KB拼完了 将来反攻日本本土 战力吃紧。  日军呢 倒是个机会可以重创美军 不过无论是灭了（或困了）近8000AP美军或灭了 10艘以上的BB+CV 都会导致ANDY TJ 吧

talentpanzer

此战后至少Ｆ４Ｕ上船 " K# O3 t) i1 }) D
不知道原来的房规如何
* }( R4 [. S; k7 E如果是通用房规　ＡＮＤＹ有啥理由要改呢？
; E4 _! ^' X0 d; Q* W# o7 n" ~当然ＡＮＤＹ的承受力是很令人敬佩的　也许幸运之神会眷恋他

talentpanzer

现在的ANDY的CVE装大量的FM2 由于没有英国CV的海盗 显然拼不过PAUK : M& ]/ V1 _+ A6 C
所以他要改房规 (当然ANDY还是有原则的 最早也要在此战后让F-4U 上CVE)
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# f0 p; n5 M, Y" X; d  S至于TJ .....ANDY的贴子中有一点情绪 就是F-4U不上没法打了....: X: G8 v3 I8 t  m1 u0 w: d
我的意思是 : 如果这就是这批30万美军如果被困在岛上了,恐怕就可以宣告大东亚共容啦

talentpanzer

以下是ANDY的贴子
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其实ANDY是个好同志!1 i: Y% \* `- [  m) W- \
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OK guys it will be a few days before Pauk gets a turn back I am going to stop whinging and get on with the game - its really not very nice to complain when you are in such a fascinating war.. / c5 ^7 v# e5 @3 c( {
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I am not asking for a change in HR's at this point as it would be unfair on Pauk.
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7 s2 B  p. \0 ~1 s$ PAfter we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other.
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. I5 g3 ~- l' M0 Y) S: nWhat I need to do is restock my carriers and then go back in hard with just the fleet carriers. 9 e. `9 x5 U, f# I0 g

5 e6 I" F& |6 Z& m& E/ BAndy
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-17 19:15 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

当然未必输
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$ G2 b" U9 W2 p9 P* s2 s8 }可是,本当:绝对赢啊!

talentpanzer

Ground combat at Tinian 2 G1 f# B# l9 q  H4 ]7 p
不幸的ANDY    May god save him!! - ]3 Q7 p6 F% X
杀日本鬼子啊！
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- M+ g7 v# _5 l" PAllied Deliberate attack
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# w& n0 M4 C2 w8 T( cAttacking force 254685 troops, 2397 guns, 1054 vehicles, Assault Value = 5204
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# _2 T( C9 P1 @7 B4 c. i7 w- jDefending force 113569 troops, 756 guns, 134 vehicles, Assault Value = 2455 : }; T/ C% J# F! n' q  I

$ R9 c- |% {  x! yAllied max assault: 3594 - adjusted assault: 1871
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Japanese max defense: 2276 - adjusted defense: 3133
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. ^( n  G9 _7 B! s* |( dAllied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7)
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6 u; u# N4 w, y) l2 Y4 XJapanese ground losses: ! ?4 a3 w% p* A/ g# ?+ Z) h
3892 casualties reported
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Vehicles lost 4
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6 }  F5 D; `8 f7 j) eAllied ground losses: / }: |' L! N) _5 d5 R8 Z7 x: {% v
3595 casualties reported
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% M# x1 u5 G+ h* `另一方面PAUK 将停止对盟军AK,AP的屠杀 好让空中力量休整以待TF58“王者归来”
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My primary goal is clearing waters around Marians and Palaus from enemy subs (KB dive bomber groups are set on 40 % ASW). I must send damaged ships to HI on repairs but i also want to re-mine Tinian
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+ C# I& u& {  `1 x! C+ p- K) xAlso, reorganising my ground defence is must. Pulled out troops from Palaus, Iwo and Truk. Must move their fragments to Tinian, repair AF damage and rebuild forts
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) @6 j- w) }; N. t% _0 D他好像蛮有信心 让30万美军定居小岛哈 - c, ]: C5 C* v1 `8 `# x
这小子认为 ANDY 选择了"bridge too far".  看来这厮是要乘机把ANDY的血放尽啊 就是不知道 是否也会让蝗军也把血流尽6 D$ D/ t7 M, a; `

& C( I$ n* y* S" a3 `[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-18 16:21 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

有好戏看了 为ＡＮＤＹ的承受力喝彩 $ j% y% t! r4 H
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I feel I now have no choice its all or nothing. * g6 Z- N! r9 ?1 A1 \
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my carriers are moving extremely slowly despite being undamaged but will all be back at Wake tomorrow within the next 3 days the entire fleet will sail to death or glory I cannot leave 300,000 men on Tinian every ship I can muster is going in - I MUST secure naval superiority over the Marianas so the orders are given. ! Y! [/ Y+ K* |9 e9 ]8 Y

% f* Z) K" O1 `+ U/ _8 m$ i; RAll carriers will be setting sail after they have fueled the crippled Hornet will be going in with the fleet - in total 6 Fleet, 3 Light and about 25 Escort Carriers covered by 8 BB's and every destroyer I can find. 5 p& \' u" ~9 f8 @  f

6 F# n, z7 S* P6 I- I5 t" e3 pThis is it death or glory....
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接下来是ＴＦ５８的最期，抑或联合舰队的末日？ 7 Q- k( K6 u& f2 R
各位下注吧　ＰＡＵＫ要逆天了吗

talentpanzer

是44年5月2 `5 U& k! [+ F& `
TF58据说是8BB ,6CV,3CVL,25CVE     要独立对抗KB(至今只损失1条CVE!)+12BB(可能大和在修)+无数陆航  唉  加油 盟军!
/ R# K( E9 T9 T+ K; {- P5 f9 V+ [5 {43年中还形势大好,就在43年末到44年让PAUK桑翻盘了!
& s5 Z) Y! H& x3 v不过FREESTYLE不断削弱美军CV ,44年CV决战的梦想,看来还是可能的   G; [$ M% i1 K
当然,我也同意包子的说法,只要ANDY指挥,impossible is nothing!
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talentpanzer

哈哈哈哈哈阿哈哈啊哈哈哈哈哈
4 d6 h: O# ]1 R, c. K* J- ^4 cANDY在打一盘很大的麻将

talentpanzer

ANDY要拼啦 : ^1 H$ t) g( H0 T  I
CVE's will take two days to arrive at Wake and I am going to wait for them.
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" `& W) @3 Y" E( [5 Fresh CVE's from West Coast will bring me fully up to strength with where I was a few days ago. * f$ }8 I7 Y, T% v; C8 e

( T! P8 `. k& j: ?* ^All 5 CV's will have 40 F6F's and 36 F4U's or 80 F6F's ! h  a, `' u7 b# }* o: ^* ^! y
3 CVL's will have 21 F6F's and 9 TBM's
7 m. }* v  |# C8 S4 a0 s2 mHornet will have 90 Helldivers. % B' `5 V  m# @& \

" F. ^1 h8 d% b' G1 X: W8 p# N/ hI should have about 20 CVE's total so about capacity for 600 aircraft.
$ a% Q. f1 o7 P( |1 U3 will operate F6F NF's total of 72.
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) _9 y2 ~6 m! q5 ^0 EBy stripping Saratoga of Hellcats and ditching the replenishment groups I should be able to allocate about another 150 to the CVE's ! P: i/ T% C- Z4 b+ r

( Y8 J6 f; E. |: h9 vAll other berths will be filled with strike aircraft. , r) j) a3 N0 E7 b0 U4 p  P; _
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: z- c0 z" i4 s0 HThe only reason I can do this is the 200 I did not commit in the first phase.
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Missispi sailed from Pearl to join the fleet at Wake.
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* P" j; w2 E' pSo what is the plan well its simple SEEK out and DESTROY KB. 2 {" q" M# v, O6 V' i
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I cannot even attempt to fight Jap LBA while KB is a threat I am therefore going to hunt KB down and destroy it if it refuses to come and fight then I will use massed bombardment TF's on Tinian until it does. - o1 \9 m* Z. K0 j# v) P

+ ^, Z$ R- M* s" {3 \6 x1 KMy replenishment groups are in reasonable shape still so fuel and ammo are not an issue.
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This is it guys no messing straight down the middle cannons to the left cannons to the right etc etc
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. Q$ l' L4 I  y, V, M( BIn two days the fleet sails and it WILL rescue the allied armies on Tinian whatever the cost. & g  J% K( {; Y9 h3 u

+ |4 \+ S# Z1 z6 m% Y100多架海盗  TMD !$ w8 z+ T! r$ `9 G, W
加上450架F6F  72架F6F NF1 T' p$ \7 S, x9 v8 X
日军需要做好损失2000架战机的准备啦
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-19 21:11 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

据说先前约定 在神风之前不把海军陆站队的海盗上CV
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After we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other.

talentpanzer

最新进展  \) X8 z. A5 Z; _
44年产5月23日$ O0 L4 m4 x; H2 E2 R
PAUK桑在TINIAN 附近，海空力量联合绞杀，一日击沉敌船54条以上！ ( s$ {7 K. }6 f6 H' \! q
至今，日军已在Mariana 海域击沉285条敌船其中运输船150艘！不过PAUK自己也在问：- D8 ], q3 I' e4 r. g8 P
I'm finishing the job. 54 more enemy ships are sunk today - just checked how many ships Andy lost in Marians campaign: 285 so far! App 150 of them are transports, and so far Andy lost 300-400 transports. Question for the AFBs - will that hurt Allied transport capabilities?

talentpanzer

43年5月24日
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3 ^1 {& i2 u/ M  c4 r5 f$ pOne more good turn for the Empire - 49 enemy ships more are now on the list! My subs and SC TFs did the main job there - enemy ships now fleeing in single TFs but my raiders intercepted them several times! Tone TF was very successful - 11 enemy ships are sunk in the night interception. BANZAI!
2 I% H* O2 o5 u: M今天PAUK的CA队横扫麻里亚纳！ 盟军又被击沉49艘  大家都麻木了吧 ( i  F( ^6 M% H8 {+ J) a" E
提尼安附近盟军船只 几乎被清空了  i. d" G+ L) z, H
可气的是连日本陆航都拿无辜商船做训练靶子了  是可忍 孰不可忍！ “快去告诉罗斯福，ANDY是叛徒！”
1 y% I" V3 K$ P* W4 KWhy not train Franks while we have time? Strike from Marians (red arrows showing day air attacks). + D) x* @' N; b, q- A* ]; b; W
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Day Air attack on TF at 67,64
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talentpanzer

这倒是错怪ＡＮＤＹ了
( d( d- s/ j1 J4 q3 s# x! ^+ @他和ＰＡＵＫ都提到了盟军的Ｆ６都上舰了！ （连夜战型都上了）
7 B) G* z6 A9 W0 m( L而ＡＮＤＹ又不想让飞行员开ＦＭ２去送死　* Q3 `% Q  r* Z! M9 }4 Z
所以．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．