talentpanzer

ANDY 在43年-44年 损失了过多的CV，CVL，CVE 。　　直到43年 ANDY形势还是很好的： 印度，新西兰都在手中;BB,CV 的损失相当小。 :. m. G% r+ Z+ B  M( e
打成这样可惜了1 Y% u! N. z' ~1 R
英国CV 几近全灭（将来会有补充）  44年永久损失2艘美国舰队CV   现在连BB损失也追上来了。而CVE，CVL的永久损失也达到总数10%了   接下来的TF58 将是至今战报中最弱的了（当然 还是很牛） 而KB几乎是至今战报中最完整的。的确符合FREESTYLE的梦想啊：）
3 e# ^/ L, i# s8 W; C但日军领土前期扩张不足，且防御纵深也不够（主要 油田难以保护） 加上美军后续还有大量增援 。。。还是很艰难的。 & k% V+ e: U: f0 V1 k! S' D% q0 W
如果三十万美军被困在提尼安。。。 ANDY恐怕会TJ的
& x6 E8 P9 T/ y; C+ a* T6 Q而且ANDY要求改房规了  应该是陆战队海盗上CVE  唉

talentpanzer

Pauk的总结我也看了 他也认为英国CV的过早 过大的永久性损失对ANDY伤害很大。 加上先前的美军舰队CV的巨大损失 使TF58的海航无法独立对抗日本陆海军航空队 其实ANDY已经改进战术了 集中了足够的陆军战力 如果不是海空失利 应该可以砸开绝对防御圈了。不过时下，美日都是两难。美军岛上有20几W人，如果攻不下或撤不走，就可以直接TJ了。所以明知是坑，也要往下跳了。不过要是真用TF58去硬拼，这可是44年5月了，每艘CV都是永久性损失了 要是和KB拼完了 将来反攻日本本土 战力吃紧。  日军呢 倒是个机会可以重创美军 不过无论是灭了（或困了）近8000AP美军或灭了 10艘以上的BB+CV 都会导致ANDY TJ 吧

talentpanzer

此战后至少Ｆ４Ｕ上船 % i6 U, e1 o9 o* M
不知道原来的房规如何* a6 x+ k8 J$ ]' Z
如果是通用房规　ＡＮＤＹ有啥理由要改呢？
* |. Q) V1 R, A2 Y9 a当然ＡＮＤＹ的承受力是很令人敬佩的　也许幸运之神会眷恋他

talentpanzer

现在的ANDY的CVE装大量的FM2 由于没有英国CV的海盗 显然拼不过PAUK
/ U$ Q+ y4 ^6 z6 s5 ~所以他要改房规 (当然ANDY还是有原则的 最早也要在此战后让F-4U 上CVE)& q! `+ W1 I! c/ `

8 g) O, {5 V# M- P至于TJ .....ANDY的贴子中有一点情绪 就是F-4U不上没法打了....9 d/ ^& i6 J- D* S
我的意思是 : 如果这就是这批30万美军如果被困在岛上了,恐怕就可以宣告大东亚共容啦

talentpanzer

以下是ANDY的贴子
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其实ANDY是个好同志!
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OK guys it will be a few days before Pauk gets a turn back I am going to stop whinging and get on with the game - its really not very nice to complain when you are in such a fascinating war.. 8 S/ Y' P' P2 R) o3 s" W7 F) `
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I am not asking for a change in HR's at this point as it would be unfair on Pauk. 5 z; V. t, `* Y. N

8 x3 k/ f1 f4 S, x4 eAfter we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other.
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/ P& x& U" m8 M1 F7 JWhat I need to do is restock my carriers and then go back in hard with just the fleet carriers.   q1 d  b  O. Y' W0 R: G$ X3 l
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( f/ F% k, O4 Y3 u' }* }/ m[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-17 19:15 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

当然未必输
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9 N! X, r1 [- S9 ]# x, l可是,本当:绝对赢啊!

talentpanzer

Ground combat at Tinian
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杀日本鬼子啊！9 I7 F4 F3 G! L  B7 s2 d0 o6 ]

+ l/ ]* c7 v/ `' }4 N' A, O% d; xAllied Deliberate attack % V* z( E2 ^' c# f. c& x; w

2 h$ M/ ~4 _0 ^$ P' V5 N3 G- lAttacking force 254685 troops, 2397 guns, 1054 vehicles, Assault Value = 5204
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Defending force 113569 troops, 756 guns, 134 vehicles, Assault Value = 2455 & W& A6 N6 z  L2 }

3 z2 J8 R3 A; iAllied max assault: 3594 - adjusted assault: 1871
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- `) f' ]* [! P  IJapanese max defense: 2276 - adjusted defense: 3133 ) N, T4 {) j7 @  |1 H
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Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7)
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3892 casualties reported
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Allied ground losses: 7 H+ l- {' K' M7 q4 G
3595 casualties reported
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2 f) b7 ~# R$ k1 F3 lVehicles lost 94. V5 w7 r+ f  P7 j& Z  G9 K( ]% m: _4 a
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另一方面PAUK 将停止对盟军AK,AP的屠杀 好让空中力量休整以待TF58“王者归来”2 v1 G% {7 }8 [, F- k0 Z: Y
尤其可怕的是他以下表态
5 N  X% [+ v5 x+ WMy primary goal is clearing waters around Marians and Palaus from enemy subs (KB dive bomber groups are set on 40 % ASW). I must send damaged ships to HI on repairs but i also want to re-mine Tinian
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Also, reorganising my ground defence is must. Pulled out troops from Palaus, Iwo and Truk. Must move their fragments to Tinian, repair AF damage and rebuild forts* b- t. ?4 f) P8 X

( Z: j) n+ X6 W他好像蛮有信心 让30万美军定居小岛哈 * J# [; d/ {! l
这小子认为 ANDY 选择了"bridge too far".  看来这厮是要乘机把ANDY的血放尽啊 就是不知道 是否也会让蝗军也把血流尽4 D2 x, G6 r' U
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-18 16:21 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

有好戏看了 为ＡＮＤＹ的承受力喝彩 % a  d. E0 I  G: v& f3 t

! R* v, c" ~( j% a7 m  I" d# `3 tI feel I now have no choice its all or nothing. ! v/ g& \# C' W3 I* z
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my carriers are moving extremely slowly despite being undamaged but will all be back at Wake tomorrow within the next 3 days the entire fleet will sail to death or glory I cannot leave 300,000 men on Tinian every ship I can muster is going in - I MUST secure naval superiority over the Marianas so the orders are given.
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All carriers will be setting sail after they have fueled the crippled Hornet will be going in with the fleet - in total 6 Fleet, 3 Light and about 25 Escort Carriers covered by 8 BB's and every destroyer I can find.   g1 ~# [: d3 }' a  ^7 X! j7 K! R
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This is it death or glory....
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/ S  p) C' p( G; T' P接下来是ＴＦ５８的最期，抑或联合舰队的末日？ . }+ y' F& h' b# }' U9 g" a! D
各位下注吧　ＰＡＵＫ要逆天了吗

talentpanzer

是44年5月
4 ^, r# N4 t! e" A$ h1 ^TF58据说是8BB ,6CV,3CVL,25CVE     要独立对抗KB(至今只损失1条CVE!)+12BB(可能大和在修)+无数陆航  唉  加油 盟军!
* G% X; Z* O* i/ v+ _3 F43年中还形势大好,就在43年末到44年让PAUK桑翻盘了!, \' D0 H. C7 O. S+ z. x
不过FREESTYLE不断削弱美军CV ,44年CV决战的梦想,看来还是可能的
0 i, {5 z3 ]) H5 f" c1 k当然,我也同意包子的说法,只要ANDY指挥,impossible is nothing!
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7 H+ P* U& r  N[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-18 21:23 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

哈哈哈哈哈阿哈哈啊哈哈哈哈哈 & u; }# I" e% M1 l5 J
ANDY在打一盘很大的麻将

talentpanzer

ANDY要拼啦 ' c0 s% K; E* R) g! s8 }* f  v
CVE's will take two days to arrive at Wake and I am going to wait for them. 5 E5 x/ I* r7 Y+ _; P9 X% J6 b

! l! J1 f6 Q0 T' u7 i3 ?5 Fresh CVE's from West Coast will bring me fully up to strength with where I was a few days ago.
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All 5 CV's will have 40 F6F's and 36 F4U's or 80 F6F's
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Hornet will have 90 Helldivers. ; f- N- v* [4 ~+ Y2 B- s

; ~% C) g) i) T: [! C; q8 |I should have about 20 CVE's total so about capacity for 600 aircraft. / B2 Z4 T5 {# ?9 t) ]
3 will operate F6F NF's total of 72. ! i+ T, b  z  G9 ]8 w* g
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By stripping Saratoga of Hellcats and ditching the replenishment groups I should be able to allocate about another 150 to the CVE's
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All other berths will be filled with strike aircraft.
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In total I will have 108 F4U's, 72 F6F NF's and about 450 F6F's I am not commiting any Wildcats with the fleet I cannot afford the pilot losses.
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5 u$ z4 G) S8 e, U, v. ~( mThe only reason I can do this is the 200 I did not commit in the first phase.
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Missispi sailed from Pearl to join the fleet at Wake. # x0 H7 C* N- m
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So what is the plan well its simple SEEK out and DESTROY KB. - E. b( Z: H. X* ^) o4 F1 V; p

3 i7 n5 T+ `* X- s; w$ zI cannot even attempt to fight Jap LBA while KB is a threat I am therefore going to hunt KB down and destroy it if it refuses to come and fight then I will use massed bombardment TF's on Tinian until it does. , }2 I, U# a+ G. Z

6 {( F* {" Q$ KMy replenishment groups are in reasonable shape still so fuel and ammo are not an issue. / H. X+ q1 m$ _3 ]
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This is it guys no messing straight down the middle cannons to the left cannons to the right etc etc " S1 t$ |5 Y. F1 W( _; N# X

# y6 x# C' A; c" {; d# q3 @# hIn two days the fleet sails and it WILL rescue the allied armies on Tinian whatever the cost.
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) N5 L. P( g' Y6 Y, N100多架海盗  TMD !( N3 u' U: S4 s
加上450架F6F  72架F6F NF
. L# A7 O% g/ j0 i' `) f* @日军需要做好损失2000架战机的准备啦
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: }# \" y4 B) E: [3 d0 T[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-19 21:11 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

据说先前约定 在神风之前不把海军陆站队的海盗上CV" ^; W4 X* {5 j- V: x

% L" ?# [. H- L# H. kAfter we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other.

talentpanzer

最新进展: \4 U6 @2 q# ]' {0 n0 c* x
44年产5月23日
# c3 W* X- e1 x. P6 [8 c* YPAUK桑在TINIAN 附近，海空力量联合绞杀，一日击沉敌船54条以上！
; C$ {8 _* [- k; A+ A5 _" r+ M& m至今，日军已在Mariana 海域击沉285条敌船其中运输船150艘！不过PAUK自己也在问：
6 [; i4 ]& `( c0 Y2 Z* ^0 wI'm finishing the job. 54 more enemy ships are sunk today - just checked how many ships Andy lost in Marians campaign: 285 so far! App 150 of them are transports, and so far Andy lost 300-400 transports. Question for the AFBs - will that hurt Allied transport capabilities?

talentpanzer

43年5月24日
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One more good turn for the Empire - 49 enemy ships more are now on the list! My subs and SC TFs did the main job there - enemy ships now fleeing in single TFs but my raiders intercepted them several times! Tone TF was very successful - 11 enemy ships are sunk in the night interception. BANZAI! ; n/ s6 i0 I1 ^3 ?4 w( f( C, A
今天PAUK的CA队横扫麻里亚纳！ 盟军又被击沉49艘  大家都麻木了吧
" \" M6 T' l' X1 G3 L5 n7 R% Z提尼安附近盟军船只 几乎被清空了
9 O" o2 g7 z5 w1 _' S2 p可气的是连日本陆航都拿无辜商船做训练靶子了  是可忍 孰不可忍！ “快去告诉罗斯福，ANDY是叛徒！” 3 b& l- K0 D  @0 w
Why not train Franks while we have time? Strike from Marians (red arrows showing day air attacks).
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, O9 c9 {& g8 O- C5 w, F# ADay Air attack on TF at 67,64   V% R- o7 B; u" R+ }$ r7 _
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Japanese aircraft
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! A6 w! G2 w$ x- r; G" B+ VNo Japanese losses
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2 k/ g9 m( n! C- b- sAllied Ships 9 ~, j9 {, k: o, t
AK Robert C. Grier, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage, o9 f# K: [" \: [
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-20 15:16 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

这倒是错怪ＡＮＤＹ了
: J3 ~5 K+ f) c8 h* Z0 ^他和ＰＡＵＫ都提到了盟军的Ｆ６都上舰了！ （连夜战型都上了）
! ?6 E2 I% Z/ y" n而ＡＮＤＹ又不想让飞行员开ＦＭ２去送死　
- j6 R: t6 h4 o7 W& z# L所以．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．