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44年的反击 HONDA 桑的荣耀

Raverdave 与 Honda 桑的“DARK SIDE OF MOON”是于44年日军仍占优的战报
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相比大家熟悉的PAUK桑,HONDA桑在直到42年初成功占领了印度(未攻下卡拉奇)及澳洲大部但KB受创。4 S6 Z9 o4 R! C, X/ |

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以下为双方主要战舰损失:
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以上可见 实际上HONDA损失了以赤诚为首的4艘CV/CVL 相比PAUK桑的完美KB将少近200架舰载机。6 V5 P9 c6 w6 s  L* A6 j
由于美军CV能重生 HONDA桑在44年面临的较不利的兵力比。# s3 {1 F5 D8 R

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$ C( A! t! q7 D1 R. D与几乎所有成功的日军反击一样
, `; d- s2 }, B9 _3 v; u+ k/ @首先在米军进攻中 以岸基战斗机消耗米军的战力1 D/ ?' ]% d9 F3 `9 K8 ^& j4 \

' O: F0 V9 x: e  R44年6月2日 吐鲁克!3 v' b$ J* x* r& z; p& h
Japanese aircraft
9 H1 t5 c/ L! \& @/ cA6M5 Zeke x 147
. Q; Z  u% w4 J6 mJ2M Jack x 38
' u/ q7 V4 e. f( [8 iKi-43-IIIa Oscar x 31
# p) C4 K7 l$ i8 u% |1 k; y+ L3 F. |Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 6 & i- |) q* y- ~& Y; i( ]: B1 z
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 30 6 r- v+ p5 r+ s7 o. K1 j" u

$ D' f4 O3 [/ x- c4 k, gAllied aircraft
. X7 K" U4 f5 U( {7 L7 dFM-2 Wildcat x 68
8 }# b/ b9 g5 P7 E' |F6F Hellcat x 182 ! |. B( O2 Z+ D" V8 }) D$ z
Hellcat II x 6
" O9 j/ O$ @1 M' wSB2C Helldiver x 174 : ?! V7 \) e- |/ F& d9 C. j: r9 w5 i
Barracuda x 12
, p( Z7 r# N+ g: ZTBF Avenger x 50
' [6 m. E) ]  U7 ^TBM Avenger x 232 * V0 R$ e( ]$ l1 p$ q# t% s) A. ~/ `; ]
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Japanese aircraft losses : a% s( |6 e( l( U, A" `
A6M5 Zeke: 88 destroyed
+ U4 S0 x& E, c" @. xJ2M Jack: 18 destroyed, 2 damaged % K9 T- y! \$ I7 R9 O( ?- k4 o
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 24 destroyed
7 M- @$ Y( n* I; n  f8 S* `4 l! {4 KKi-61 KAIc Tony: 4 destroyed
% |  }: j4 u* h9 gKi-84-Ia Frank: 14 destroyed, 2 damaged
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Allied aircraft losses
1 {2 l; u9 C0 _6 NFM-2 Wildcat: 66 destroyed + I8 M( M$ M' A6 }; H1 ?! N
F6F Hellcat: 143 destroyed
; e# Q7 O! ^- D* {$ T2 |5 vHellcat II: 4 destroyed * [( h  E/ ]: {& \( c& `& _
SB2C Helldiver: 30 destroyed, 10 damaged
' \3 d7 M7 _5 O, vBarracuda: 1 destroyed + \5 C/ u: }! {9 O) |9 f* J7 e
TBF Avenger: 10 destroyed, 7 damaged + U/ w, ?9 V. Z5 A
TBM Avenger: 45 destroyed, 13 damaged
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Japanese Ships
+ U: O% }8 u/ a  C, _AK Fukuei Maru, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
; }1 M" h$ S. z; k' T8 fMSW Chitose Maru, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage . W9 h/ M6 |- d6 p0 D, I
AK Amaho Maru, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
5 r5 u! j( ?" p8 @/ I7 F7 }" ZAK Oyama Maru, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
9 C4 E. j9 ?, {$ i# M6 B% g7 bMSW Toshi Maru #2, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage - @) |. J3 w* I4 G! R/ k: G
MSW Atsu Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
. P' O. I" K2 \2 rMSW Wa 9 & Z3 S; \" L: g9 \& @
MSW Choyo Maru #2
- C+ ?- z7 r* e: G5 O1 g% m  MAK Yamabato Maru, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage * K$ P& K1 H6 D2 l
MSW Wa 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
4 ~! s( l( X4 I: ?" RMSW Tama Maru #2, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage % }  U. K+ N" _
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Aircraft Attacking:
& m8 j1 B' w) k6 kDay Air attack on Truk , at 63,78 ! I( r+ V5 u5 M0 O7 C# v' H) c
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Japanese aircraft
3 ~/ Y, j: G  y6 j( n9 ?/ b5 J, \/ gA6M5 Zeke x 75
/ C0 f9 X8 |4 N3 e0 yJ2M Jack x 25
6 l! U6 Q+ E! G, |' I& L5 q. R* cKi-43-IIIa Oscar x 8 $ X  {6 E- A0 @5 A; T) k  ~/ d4 ]# @
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 8
. Q) |6 z9 Y! r% ^' H6 w! w1 [Ki-84-Ia Frank x 19
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8 W2 P; Y/ \! Z' v( @) ]% d. HAllied aircraft
/ d# L/ M/ @" X/ k& XFM-2 Wildcat x 60
+ L% M% Q2 F$ j& Q2 tF6F Hellcat x 142
' `( B8 [4 i" O( g# e( z+ dHellcat II x 4 7 [% \8 }7 ~5 Z( C2 n; V
SB2C Helldiver x 137
2 G7 J( }7 v) FBarracuda x 10 , T. _7 h" N# R
TBF Avenger x 37
" d9 J. A5 u2 N$ KTBM Avenger x 185
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1 F- F9 ?! [6 o( P  x  h  MJapanese aircraft losses 1 G0 L, O, O* _5 k
A6M5 Zeke: 43 destroyed : x/ r* v9 E- B+ H8 c: z5 w
J2M Jack: 15 destroyed
" A! ~1 l& Q) LKi-43-IIIa Oscar: 5 destroyed
: B5 p; ]  ?( z$ D5 Q4 J  gKi-61 KAIc Tony: 6 destroyed ' ?; b. f  z  v- |# [' r8 }
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 16 destroyed 3 r, W1 w' l3 G+ Y; _( V6 H

: ?: q8 n/ C" qAllied aircraft losses : Z0 k- Q! I  C/ O! z$ O; j
FM-2 Wildcat: 40 destroyed
& ^$ t. `8 ]/ f8 YF6F Hellcat: 102 destroyed & |3 f) K- e" }. k4 }7 i2 X
Hellcat II: 2 destroyed
3 {% R) R: w# w/ B2 I$ KSB2C Helldiver: 15 destroyed, 30 damaged
( r/ Q, {& R- l3 CTBF Avenger: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
9 p: y& h: S/ Q; ~! h/ H$ @TBM Avenger: 21 destroyed, 48 damaged
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% X0 C: ]1 a/ s3 aJapanese Ships ; C! G* x/ r. l5 T' T$ V2 M
AP Hakozaki Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage ' Y3 u7 B% l" ^- l9 S0 f* S! H
AP Amakusa Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage ! W0 T8 h5 F& r1 Y7 o
AP Nichiai Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire + i3 v; }. i. {$ F
ML Naryu, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
# w/ V& E/ F0 E) l& M) @- CAP Neikai Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire / C- Z/ B8 J9 j) Z  B
DD Namikaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire ; F% o0 p+ e5 V* s3 C2 y1 ?
AP Toko Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
% L' D1 f6 s# a. ^! Y8 JAP Shoun Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
  Q. v2 U' B- C: Y; ]AK Ina Maru, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage : ^& U0 M8 ^4 i
AP Zenyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire , L, C% F: m6 u% A' z0 v
ML Shirakami, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
) {1 N; I7 x5 F% J$ @  ^SS RO-33, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
0 K1 K, J9 z& z( IAP Chifuku Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire & K* A" F  Z( ?6 B, y' Y1 K, K# C& g
AP Somedono Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage * T7 Z: ?2 z5 g+ L/ p/ n
AP Urato Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage 6 g6 h8 M# `! n! _+ A0 n
AP Shozan Maru, Bomb hits 2 & Z; ^; u/ n9 B+ H' a9 d3 q4 G$ }
DD Karukaya, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage ) i, Q+ y$ Z) a
AP Koan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage + h' d* E- f0 ^; o2 ?" w, a" _
AP Giyu Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire * n" {8 U: W4 @. J
PG Saiko Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
( ]3 Q1 T- E; b; M) wAP Hinko Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
/ a( Q! F; X+ ^" G2 [  TAK Isuzugawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
6 @' L- d) s! w/ J- JPG Myoken Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage , Q+ H' j( S) y7 _) a' I
AP Hanakawa Maru, Bomb hits 1
4 u! u3 Y  \* rAK Hyuga Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage " y) Y% q( L; Q
AP Teizui Maru, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage : |/ S* q' e' y7 K0 G7 t" q9 |
AP Anzan Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
. i) q, G( {+ o$ N2 q- @AP Fusemi Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire ! m  o1 z( S# ~! r
AG AG-353, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
- r% M" @) D! G& {: X" a7 y5 k( lAP Kashiwara Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire ) W' i" L7 u( s) ~
AK Tokiwasan Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
* R! G1 K" l# N5 Y0 j. rAP Eiko Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
1 x8 [4 D: G( b1 X. x, VAP Sanura Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
) ^# V! z  G: p! s( r/ pMSW W.4, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
& b1 i) X+ e! v* L0 K- k6 EAP Tatuho Maru, Bomb hits 1
8 d, C; ^2 N+ m' q6 XAP Tatuwa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage ; J& e% [# L* a8 y  r
AP Hakutetsu Maru #13, Bomb hits 1, on fire . ]4 x2 l0 y* p2 G$ ^
AP Kasima Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage . [9 X+ `) M, U
AP Taizin Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage " o& [3 k/ R" T' L) x+ i
PG Nanpo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
$ l# m. J6 \4 s! c2 h+ Z! g  _! ?MSW W.9, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
5 s1 J1 }: G1 b0 h" z3 c$ T2 O4 OAP Taijima Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
0 ^$ [; ]" @# ]' ^! C1 ~! s1 m% CAP Kumakawa Maru, Bomb hits 1
, i" A6 h' s' T  H+ c1 F- o' H' @0 ]0 ~0 oAK Cheribon Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire 6 l: R8 ^) B: y+ S# v( ]5 }; x1 `
AP Hawaii Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
* ^% S; |  @; V$ HPG Eifuku Maru, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage ( J" ~; F+ [: q
AP Ryoyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
  \' q0 A$ @( ?/ C* q* hAP Toko Maru #2, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
) q; L4 ]/ ]  Y9 \% R; A# ?& A- HAK Tsukikawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
. n8 ?+ h7 ~" b( \0 tAP Heiku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
9 u+ l& R/ A9 Y; M# J* G7 i) cPG Kantori Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire 2 f* f/ b: Y5 \; _7 l; v0 g
AP Yasukuni Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire / K! [$ J7 X* F% |
AP Tientsin Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage ) q8 ^1 L& b8 }. E* z& l8 a
AP Hikade Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
3 t" s- e3 M0 WAP Hokoku Maru, Bomb hits 1 " Q4 Z, O+ `: V' K' V' g) |2 Q1 e
AP Netsuda Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire 7 m1 s2 d3 G( H3 b) T" {4 ?
APD APD-1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
4 a9 \+ q# H. d% S& @! y* u8 c% a. _AP Unkai Maru #6, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage 2 I1 P$ @  i- b6 z% v/ V# N
AP Hikawa Maru, Bomb hits 1
. U7 Y/ D0 L2 E3 u* xPG Shinko Maru #2, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Japanese ground losses:
) Q4 B. d3 e+ h1 s/ ~( A313 casualties reported
" [1 W5 ^6 \( ^7 H! X) NGuns lost 17
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  Q, v2 e8 D' i- ~  ?$ zPort hits 18 3 K+ O8 O' t2 @# K2 x
Port fuel hits 4
0 n) L/ P7 t2 u/ ~: u' t  KPort supply hits 3" \" r9 b0 m; P7 I! P

# X! @5 w6 k1 ?4 s[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2008-2-23 10:18 编辑 ]
1944年6月7日 KB 登场成就了几乎无伤的完美雷霆一击  
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# b: v7 `% C3 n- T3 |. @3 z5 QJapanese aircraft 8 f' A8 S& V! G7 r
A6M2-N Rufe x 24
, N3 i' H; [3 BA6M5 Zeke x 329
4 {5 J  f( }# S1 [A6M3a Zero x 14 ) Y0 z5 \( q0 y8 d9 F* k* v4 U

7 f5 \3 X9 B6 {$ k6 V% wAllied aircraft 8 x/ m1 M7 n7 k0 z2 m( g* Q" j/ Y
FM-2 Wildcat x 47 : Z) c* S! ?" L* \/ N, m
F6F Hellcat x 202
; ?- X7 t+ R* y( ^2 m: V- y% w/ FHellcat II x 4 ( e1 k3 r  t' d
SB2C Helldiver x 53 6 i. D) Y* k4 h0 z9 r# j8 f: C+ E" x
Barracuda x 11
* b. Z3 K1 Q  oTBF Avenger x 79
/ j' V! q: {3 ?/ O2 m2 kTBM Avenger x 213 2 f+ q) j0 y" @0 {: \- x- G6 ^

2 ?* ~' B( x! L0 h7 R# R' M/ ~Japanese aircraft losses
6 |; ?8 P( r5 a+ c2 \" XA6M2-N Rufe: 24 destroyed
) b! T5 H2 ^9 F, \A6M5 Zeke: 134 destroyed, 18 damaged
/ D& i8 K( V8 q/ x' j) bA6M3a Zero: 14 destroyed
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FM-2 Wildcat: 47 destroyed
0 ~8 D& k( z7 V" g, lF6F Hellcat: 196 destroyed 7 s9 w2 F' `3 s9 M6 I
Hellcat II: 4 destroyed
0 D7 O: N8 o- Z# C0 uSB2C Helldiver: 18 destroyed, 6 damaged - ?6 O0 j  m# n" p% G9 [/ K
Barracuda: 9 destroyed
: r% L" @; ~1 J# J8 S) f8 XTBF Avenger: 67 destroyed 3 }# ^$ m, `) d# x9 l5 W8 u7 b
TBM Avenger: 165 destroyed
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CVE Kaiyo
: v3 r" _" v+ _( CCVL Ryuho
' ]0 P: u$ }- Y8 u- T/ ZCVL Shoho 0 Q- `% E7 h6 ^) r
CVE Shinyo % r3 m6 V0 R* ?7 Z! ?
CVL Zuiho ) {! }5 e* C) ?$ N# x3 ^8 \
DD Uzuki ! ]9 X+ s4 `/ b( Q! a& d3 A
CVL Ryujo
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1 S7 p+ c; g7 b( {+ xJapanese aircraft
/ Z( W* r  P0 X/ l# n* fA6M5 Zeke x 93 * a: Y# c1 ]7 H" Q

# p( g2 w" t# S& g! \3 ?4 B7 mAllied aircraft
/ Y4 b, {* [0 y+ Q/ LFM-2 Wildcat x 12
( P' m9 }. z* }: h0 OTBM Avenger x 56 . s" o" C  J' l- t1 G& k

3 r7 e* F9 l- Q/ p2 C  NJapanese aircraft losses % a' j8 S& v3 k- @3 @
A6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged
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Allied aircraft losses
! d6 c% ]$ y( Y) ], gFM-2 Wildcat: 11 destroyed : t! _5 c* E; ]
TBM Avenger: 46 destroyed 7 C& R& E6 r# R

4 [, C. D) K/ Z" t7 h# KJapanese Ships
5 }6 f) R  k  `/ L5 Z1 V# BCVL Ryuho 1 Y) r3 q" Y' F6 A4 x
CVL Ryujo
) H+ U3 @" u! e$ ^- @4 A6 UCVE Shinyo 0 L9 j7 L$ I, L3 b
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Day Air attack on TF at 75,79 ' ~8 p7 @, A) r" F* e8 h

6 M2 c  G$ d" a( L; }: m2 TJapanese aircraft - x- N* B1 A- Q7 {1 b9 t/ L
A6M5 Zeke x 89 " O( z% h& s* i- h3 E, u9 ^- s

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2 Y% f# u1 \, _$ z: LF6F Hellcat x 7
3 o9 W6 C+ T  M( L8 `SB2C Helldiver x 33
1 I  O$ b. y2 v- L3 G0 nTBM Avenger x 18
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7 Q! {2 |% |: NJapanese aircraft losses
$ _9 s7 e0 q6 g- b! b4 m) T8 HA6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged ; e, u" J; Y: _3 g) D( K  k
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Allied aircraft losses 9 c, y5 @0 r  l
F6F Hellcat: 6 destroyed 2 w* ]. i( k: T* c% X) V
SB2C Helldiver: 13 destroyed, 7 damaged
+ K8 a8 C$ z# g* ]# gTBM Avenger: 16 destroyed : l5 b4 P8 y+ S4 X4 T9 A

8 N) Z; Y/ ~3 N, T) s. A& oJapanese Ships   k& p3 G9 ^  D9 {: {+ \6 ?1 D
CVL Zuiho 6 q- h8 Z- H* \8 E, ]* u
CVE Kaiyo
& H" l( ^5 `; i! F+ HCVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 2, on fire ; l! e" J2 T' t3 q

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Day Air attack on TF at 76,83 ; c. i- O. P' x# {' {8 t# W
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* @8 c) U1 o) \+ J9 p# E! S5 d3 hP1Y Frances x 36 / s: m5 ?: @2 g/ C

+ a7 l7 r& k" C* X- }: I) SAllied aircraft % o5 A1 s8 M  |& [
FM-2 Wildcat x 76 ; h' V+ K8 k1 l) J8 J9 W+ J" o
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P1Y Frances: 24 destroyed
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# U6 H# \5 G3 ?+ EAllied aircraft losses
! L9 b6 U/ `$ ^4 [) ]* CFM-2 Wildcat: 16 damaged
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AO Mascoma, Torpedo hits 1, on fire * i  Z# G' w& |( }
DE Osterhaus
( P  a  \# n1 {$ o) D: K( RAO Schuylkill
) l: i2 f5 i9 @AE Jacob Riis 1 \' q7 W, D# T% U+ X
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Day Air attack on TF at 77,82 4 @) k$ }4 v" X
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Japanese aircraft
1 @  h" o. X7 I* U# u4 p7 n" mA6M5 Zeke x 24 1 z9 c+ a( P* [7 U7 U
G4M2 Betty x 5
7 ~$ |  `, \* bKi-61 KAIc Tony x 6 % @- s# j: m4 j" H6 f0 a% ?
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 79
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Allied aircraft ( H' q0 B- j7 K+ P; W; h
FM-2 Wildcat x 62
( ]% c# q. f5 v% J6 I8 g) sF6F Hellcat x 224
& D) a! ?, R& g/ R" |5 Z( I  `  VHellcat II x 8 + O3 i+ q2 B8 n9 Z& Z
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Japanese aircraft losses
0 @! F/ l. n1 y/ ^6 O+ h  r! kA6M5 Zeke: 24 destroyed $ B) k+ s' B4 Z! _) Z
G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed
0 c, ]% x$ j5 p4 x  \- IKi-61 KAIc Tony: 6 destroyed
/ m. n+ [7 A, V+ k0 _5 l; K4 F2 OKi-84-Ia Frank: 77 destroyed " R0 L0 S$ g6 ^) d
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Allied aircraft losses
" W0 F! {- ?! nF6F Hellcat: 45 destroyed, 15 damaged 1 P5 S6 i3 a5 ^4 E3 H

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. H- I9 l9 J7 C0 w2 N6 LA6M5 Zeke x 215 " D( g: U$ J7 \
D3A Val x 36   g7 e: }+ m6 L$ z- P
D4Y Judy x 312
* V/ B* i0 ^# l7 xA6M3a Zero x 10
0 ?" H2 a1 n/ k, X8 ~B5N Kate x 58 , i5 {/ ^& l% t( M2 z
B6N Jill x 178 ' A4 u0 x. v6 c) v4 P. g
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Allied aircraft
7 F: R" p# D0 ~/ B; O# B; nFM-2 Wildcat x 30 . D+ C, W$ k1 o# J" p: T
F6F Hellcat x 85
5 W% J4 z( B1 D% U0 r3 lHellcat II x 4 8 i% q' ]7 u) v, Q4 O
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Japanese aircraft losses
1 W  C) I0 I$ O( v5 k0 X3 q" nA6M5 Zeke: 197 destroyed   K9 B! y1 w$ S7 N
D3A Val: 5 destroyed, 6 damaged ) }1 R& O: E( m3 t+ ~* b0 I* F! B; g
D4Y Judy: 79 destroyed, 23 damaged
( ]. Z* h- F9 ~7 ], Q' MA6M3a Zero: 9 destroyed
( W3 _0 m% l3 \B5N Kate: 23 destroyed, 10 damaged
7 N. T5 E( [( T8 N7 aB6N Jill: 50 destroyed, 25 damaged
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' W# }6 j' `) S& M* A5 PAllied aircraft losses ( {7 X4 d( ?0 f3 B5 Z8 Y! g
FM-2 Wildcat: 20 destroyed
% }# M4 N3 u6 |! N% vF6F Hellcat: 122 destroyed & b7 u  D5 R) c9 \+ K% {9 H  n
Hellcat II: 3 destroyed 3 _5 N  y3 i" d3 a# e
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Allied Ships 6 f5 V9 `. P- I6 l9 R
CV Bunker Hill, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
! C: Z+ U! a  h, l, sCV Illustrious, Bomb hits 12, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
& o2 g# R; h4 I4 [% R% LCVL Monterey, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
5 P# {0 S7 H+ N+ j& r4 A! p/ HCV Wasp, Bomb hits 11, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
3 g. n" m0 n1 `; a. rCVL Langley, Bomb hits 20, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
& F) c$ c( p% p( OCVL Independence, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage ! \7 t4 J+ q% z9 v( t
CVL Cabot, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
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CA Canberra, Bomb hits 2
* i5 d  j$ f; G- ?+ ?CA Louisville ) f6 G& n$ x! |/ v, J
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8 w  K4 M9 K$ A. IDay Air attack on TF at 77,82
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' {; w. h$ X2 |/ N2 o: l+ X( u1 \Japanese aircraft ) Z0 v% R4 f, I- s: G/ O% ^- r/ Y! A
A6M5 Zeke x 11
" [8 l. V# ~# n7 aB5N Kate x 18 ) b+ s" p* C" t% j2 _* l$ e7 S3 P# `

/ j, p8 }0 C* [- K) HAllied aircraft
' P4 p; J" d# ^1 [# c. l, YFM-2 Wildcat x 19 1 w, h; P! _% d8 v' l
F6F Hellcat x 26
" n3 r7 B3 N1 G# v  Z3 V0 nHellcat II x 2 8 [; s7 h6 S6 y7 v2 d: r

4 A8 u/ x7 Z# \& j  Y3 ~Japanese aircraft losses
2 l  b/ V# V+ mA6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed 8 d  a! [6 z1 N# U- Z+ V
B5N Kate: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged & C* J6 B1 K2 B$ }
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Allied aircraft losses
9 B6 G) j" u) sFM-2 Wildcat: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
, a4 j) l7 [* \5 R/ I( ^) \' IF6F Hellcat: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged
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$ Y0 ]6 e' A3 z1 aCVL Cabot, on fire
3 ]- U4 U0 f) o- o. r/ VCA Canberra
- i) r( x3 I5 [: p4 B2 z, JCVL Monterey, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 77,82
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Japanese aircraft ) o  a2 L# J- L' G* V; A7 P
A6M5 Zeke x 11
6 l6 L7 _1 u( a& s4 ^B5N Kate x 24
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Allied aircraft 8 {( H! x& ?6 d& \+ D" R& C. ^$ A
FM-2 Wildcat x 18 $ ?0 y, t+ o* e. \$ L% `2 u4 U
F6F Hellcat x 22
$ ?! A; c! N4 G+ ?1 p- v2 pHellcat II x 2
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2 M' Y) W* f7 G& X, V4 D' o# QA6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed
; P( L* T; ~! [: r, v, {B5N Kate: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged * X. b& Q9 ?0 H+ y0 M1 y( o* [/ i
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' d1 r% F8 v) F0 g# F6 dFM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged 4 v/ f2 W7 Q0 A
F6F Hellcat: 6 destroyed 2 S7 }+ E  ?) u6 p

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$ G' e4 H0 N! K& D3 X8 BCVL Independence, on fire, heavy damage * x2 j0 i; C. A7 O8 K3 ^
CV Bunker Hill, on fire, heavy damage
- D. p9 f: R3 }) P7 d" ]# z0 bCVL Monterey, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage 5 c. g: J. q4 |0 H' X- l& H

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Day Air attack on TF at 75,79
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A6M2-N Rufe x 3 ! K2 d8 V- S. J2 V8 G  T( G
A6M5 Zeke x 110
6 P$ r3 o, e1 U$ I2 L5 M" {- QA6M3a Zero x 1
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( p# Y7 i2 D% f/ P8 P  RF6F Hellcat x 9
2 G/ h. P, d1 v- zTBF Avenger x 3
: o" _% c3 T8 r- Y" q3 y2 tTBM Avenger x 2 5 ?! U! O/ Z$ E; `

/ S& T, }; l" r+ m$ W1 E5 ^; w- b! D7 AJapanese aircraft losses ) G+ M  y* b0 B. [; A: I2 d+ z
A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed - z4 s0 V/ l: V
A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed
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F6F Hellcat: 9 destroyed - u# Z. D" M* G( h; w5 ~% a
TBF Avenger: 3 destroyed " T4 A$ M1 m' y7 L- N/ Z+ I
TBM Avenger: 2 destroyed
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' c" R  E% p- [" y1 [. ~7 WJapanese aircraft
+ I& O# P. Q' ^+ l! GA6M5 Zeke x 106
* t, L. B4 v$ b& v# WA6M3a Zero x 1
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! _8 S1 ?! X# P; R! _) ^/ mFM-2 Wildcat x 4
( T" e% i" i$ ^TBM Avenger x 2 . W2 q1 l! m9 I

; v8 B: c# U. Z1 {* PJapanese aircraft losses
4 _, ?& L- X) L" r: A0 U9 g4 rA6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed ) f. s" P% P( x2 U0 m, e' x
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Allied aircraft losses 7 w% t( V0 a& J2 N% n
FM-2 Wildcat: 4 destroyed $ h, \9 A. H- G/ a
TBM Avenger: 2 destroyed
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Japanese aircraft & t# Z5 b" ?6 @3 T% I
P1Y Frances x 14
4 R, ]0 I3 }! f) p' c+ _- MKi-84-Ia Frank x 3
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Allied aircraft 8 |6 o5 {# V( Y5 c# j" x% p& a- Q# L
F6F Hellcat x 18
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. g: m2 }( S( U  I( F6 rJapanese aircraft losses ( t. [9 [4 ]. U# ]: \
P1Y Frances: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged   y- ~7 Z7 s' _6 i9 Y$ t+ ^
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 3 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses
$ R7 ~% x( d+ f& K, H2 CF6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged & Z6 C5 a' W2 H4 x
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/ {4 L, }4 `, n/ g& Z- e- }/ ]. YJapanese aircraft 3 ~* U9 Y9 e" |$ F* A3 S! l( }
A6M5 Zeke x 83
9 m& B2 h7 Y% CD3A Val x 24
8 q, v' K2 J) w; P. G7 y6 t* `D4Y Judy x 194
/ }% n0 ?( p/ N9 V; ^# xB5N Kate x 50
+ |6 [. w$ `, D! e$ A( c: AB6N Jill x 100
5 \$ C# g0 W+ W( V0 t% M2 o: D  v" `+ O+ [
Allied aircraft " V+ p) A( u: c- F: r+ Y$ ^
F6F Hellcat x 17
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3 o5 R" ~8 F% B" w# u: n3 uJapanese aircraft losses $ l1 ?" s% T7 a) k$ k
A6M5 Zeke: 15 destroyed, 1 damaged
+ T- j& l' C) V5 UD3A Val: 4 damaged 5 K0 ~( S& N8 S
D4Y Judy: 7 destroyed, 11 damaged
3 j& t! j& y2 m' e7 K: pB5N Kate: 6 destroyed, 16 damaged $ i% E; L2 f* |, J
B6N Jill: 7 destroyed, 21 damaged : ~4 h" I4 ]7 _9 X/ `' T

/ k/ P( v7 {7 F" A4 {2 O% z( @  mAllied aircraft losses 2 c/ E* [5 c, B/ l9 ]
F6F Hellcat: 17 destroyed
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CVE Suwannee, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
- ~$ o- M3 k$ nCA Astoria, Bomb hits 1, on fire ) N4 I  @7 \$ b5 V
CVE Chenango, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
( g6 U# d1 a4 t  `5 i3 Y! qCV Lexington, Bomb hits 20, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage 3 R# ?$ G, o2 ^- Y! X
CVL San Jacinto, Bomb hits 11, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
* P9 A' L! q) c3 ZCVE Sangamon, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage , C, ?7 q; i4 E7 X6 x
CV Franklin, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage ' k- _: b2 g$ \$ d
CVL Bataan, Bomb hits 12, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

4 ^/ D; v  V5 [# u+ ^6 ECA Concord
1 a0 u) ^& ]* I! Y0 GCL Hobart, Torpedo hits 1' o) t' Z2 u1 x  C, Z' r( u- R' K

/ ?% I% B6 n- p2 ^由上可见 44年日军须有以下成功要素:
4 O/ z4 J0 j0 v' a& |1, 完整的KB: D. R) W- j8 I: n' n2 s
2, 坚强的基地(让米军陷入 日军在中途岛的困境)
: W+ v6 W# @6 b% G: N3, 高经验的海航(HONDA 的海航经验在80-90) ! i2 B' |) B5 C
4,    足够数量的战斗机(即便面对被岸基大大削弱的TF58 日军战斗机也以重创为代价来保证攻击机突防)* p+ ~& T8 Z* T* {# i. Q
5, TF58须被大幅削弱
$ u$ j1 P9 Y! {) {6, 不能有大量的F4U(最好英军的CV在前期被击沉), V3 L2 w/ w8 K# j( m/ s/ `! r! l
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总之 HONDA桑成就了 一战击毁5 CVs 、6 CVL、3 CVE(可能战果还会扩大)的完美反击
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以上为在下的抛砖引玉! }; T; D% _0 y+ I" X! v
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希望同好们周末快乐! BANZAI!7 g8 q) N( \+ G+ t5 r
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2008-2-23 11:09 编辑 ]
研究中,美军为什么要试图攻打土鲁克呢?那地方感觉足够硬
这就是不限单格舰载机数的明例啊~ 4 o: T2 b' U# U# W7 x0 M* a1 v
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800架的特大号协同实在是匪夷所思啊
不能这么说,在44年以后就不能用房归对于日军作限制,否则米军指挥官也太次了。
这一次光舰载机日本就多了一倍,还有陆基,神仙也得完蛋...
TF 58 舰载机数量不少 只是在攻击吐鲁克时有损耗5 t$ `' c6 B$ t/ m: h

4 j. B3 i9 d8 t+ F) _' g限单格舰载机数 对盟军也很不利
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8 N# m. D% {) i- [( D$ M这局是限制 机场容量的。 对于后期攻略众多基地的米军而言 限制岸基 不限舰载的规则是有利的
单从KB的完整 和盟军44年后的永久损失来看 还是PAUK桑 的战报的交换比吓人  M2 J& z/ q7 S/ e7 H

( {$ B$ q& |9 _& f4 A这个战报中 HONDA桑的反击是建立在 KB受过削弱 米军却已重生的基础上的; x* q2 N& B+ ~6 a5 e. _
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能有这样的完胜 说明!  用日军的玩家 要有信心 不要TJ!
这局日本开了PDU吗?怎么TRUK第一波的时候日本这边还有奥斯卡......
原帖由 talentpanzer 于 2008-2-23 11:51 发表
5 l2 b+ b6 H0 q- F* ?( f单从KB的完整 和盟军44年后的永久损失来看 还是PAUK桑 的战报的交换比吓人
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这个战报中 HONDA桑的反击是建立在 KB受过削弱 米军却已重生的基础上的+ h. |6 r0 I6 L; g. j5 Q9 i. R# ?
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能有这样的完胜 说明!  用日军的玩家 要有信心 不要TJ!
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这个战报说明日军要想44获胜,唯一的条件是盟军玩家与自己存在代差
这战报在国内明显不实用~~看看F6F的损失就知道F6F的飞行员根本没经过训练~换做80经验的F6F不可能有这样的结果~~另外对于盟军傻了巴鸡的行动1 |2 S: I! C) o: @
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所以各位观众~不要认为该战报有什么了不起的地方~这只是盟军的水平还有差距而已~~
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另外用载机数限制单格CV数量没什么不妥~~否则到了44年~~相同水平情况下~~日本面对盟军登陆没有任何办法~~
I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears, and sweat.
本来就是激励大家 , [! N8 h! u" o. [+ r& c
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在国内44年遭遇这种失败,估计米军头子是没脸见人了
如果盟军打算TJ,我报名替补
一万年太久,只争朝夕!
肥龙san捡破烂捡上瘾了...
开疾风的那些家伙好象也不怎么样啊
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