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[AE] 塞班岛攻略，自娱自乐,本档结束。

本帖最后由 ak49 于 2011-8-10 21:17 编辑 7 n7 q& M+ [/ G" \4 S7 f

有点郁闷了，我在tinian起飞了40多架pb4y-1,b-24j轰炸saiban岛的日军地面部队，战果太小，不知道怎么好了。6 H5 k2 B* V: z0 i, `9 Z$ q
  用侦察机不停的侦查，saibai岛的DL是9/15，tinian岛上有空军HQ2个，5级的机场。空军支援都是多多的。
  6000米设定高度炸伤4个鬼子，后来烦了改成100米轰炸加机炮扫射，只伤11个鬼子，就是用砸蛋也不是死这点人吧，飞100米低空还损失一个b24。
那个weik岛上的日军怎么一轰炸就死几百呢？连火炮也炸毁，weilk岛上的日军我完全是轰炸光了再派人上去的，怎么用到轰炸saiban 岛就不行了呢？$ E( T- l2 L2 a- V+ u
我现在把saipan岛上日军兵力说一下：
troop56020    guns312    afvs235
部队人数和火炮，这个我们都知道，我现在忘了afvs235代表啥意思了，大家看看中文版里这里afvs是啥意思。告诉我。
我现在考虑到难道是机场5级的原因吗？非要到7级？也不会呀，我轰炸weik岛也是4，5级机场起飞了啊，炸的蛮好啊。
我是哪个环节没有注意还是怎么，大家看见了告诉我吧，多谢，等着啊。3 d5 [, o3 @9 U+ p. i+ A6 A- U
我玩的是AE1108里的44年5月1日开始的小剧本---夺取塞班战役。急死了

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你先去买点军事类书籍补补课再说吧

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ak49

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你要是知道就说嘛，估计也就是一句话的问题。
我来吆喝一下，走过路过的大大，知道怎么解决问题的就指点一下，不知道的就顶一下。多谢。

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WITP二年突击勋章汉化表彰(二等宝鼎勋章)

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AFV是装甲车辆
看过风语者米?!看过就不该奇怪了

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汉化表彰(二等宝鼎勋章) WITP一年突击勋章

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你先去买点军事类书籍补补课再说吧4 w T7 k n( a$ C _* Q
kesselring 发表于 2011-8-8 22:18

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对的，要不然就又是一个戈林，空军足以歼敌了

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ak49

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点击不少，回答没有，我就不知道了，是你们不知道怎么回答呢还是我的问题太简单你们不想回答。
在没有解决问题前，我还是不指望空军的轰炸了，调兵直接抢滩登陆算了。

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如果按照实际数据，塞班岛的地形不利于飞机轰炸和舰炮攻击。 , e5 A' T9 E4 ^ j6 z
该岛面积比较大，山峰、沟壑多，还有很多岩洞。5 Z; L. j# {1 p" v, g

优势部队登陆好了。你要么战舰列先炮击一段时间，看看效果。

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banian君说的该岛面积比较大，山峰、沟壑多，还有很多岩洞。这个很有用，我估计就是这个造成轰炸效果不好的原因了，我提问就是怕我轰炸时忽略了啥，果真是地形的原因的话那就只有登陆了，我现在的抢滩的部队马上就快到塞班岛了。塞班岛上有57000日军估计战斗得要慢慢熬啊。多谢banian君的回答。

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在我盟军强大的火力面前，塞班岛上的57000日军节节败退，今天是44年12月31日，经过数日的激烈战斗，盟军夺取了塞班岛，鬼子的防御工事从一开始的5级被盟军工兵拆毁到0级，5万多缺乏补给的鬼子逃进老林。" ~# h0 w  N$ \6 E

round combat at Saipan (108,93)
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Allied Shock attack( O+ c# ~, y+ n; M- m9 `1 M* W

Attacking force 53562 troops, 1147 guns, 1136 vehicles, Assault Value = 2116
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Defending force 29344 troops, 272 guns, 208 vehicles, Assault Value = 655

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 0
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Allied adjusted assault: 1870 : f5 {6 c: I% k

Japanese adjusted defense: 325 # d! z1 x6 ?+ v8 f5 L* C5 D

Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0)
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Allied forces CAPTURE Saipan !!! - `# I" U2 h2 c/ t
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)7 e$ \3 v6 |: F7 \9 a6 {
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Japanese ground losses:
   4881 casualties reported
      Squads: 19 destroyed, 67 disabled* n% v1 y0 q; S( f! q4 v/ z" h
      Non Combat: 124 destroyed, 184 disabled
      Engineers: 155 destroyed, 1 disabled( O4 b& ]9 p( D1 g8 ?, N6 J' H
   Guns lost 63 (62 destroyed, 1 disabled)0 \$ @  v2 Q7 L
   Vehicles lost 146 (146 destroyed, 0 disabled)1 V6 P4 Q( q) d
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Allied ground losses:, f' c4 j2 \  Q, Z. P
   3357 casualties reported& l/ w1 u! u# O  u* x9 @5 G" D6 z
      Squads: 7 destroyed, 170 disabled
      Non Combat: 29 destroyed, 365 disabled
      Engineers: 1 destroyed, 21 disabled
   Vehicles lost 111 (25 destroyed, 86 disabled)  Z: a4 S+ i( I2 S  R
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Assaulting units:' F$ L/ ]1 g1 l* X, H7 ]! K4 Z
6th Marine Regiment- s4 @: A1 L+ J0 l) z
25th Marine Regiment
98th Infantry Division+ C3 d3 f+ G* e# a8 i, ^0 L# o3 j% m
77th Infantry Division7 |3 P6 c1 D! k# w5 ^! o
1st USMC Tank Battalion
24th Marine Regiment1 e2 x4 [; a# Y
3rd Marine Division
23rd Marine Regiment
708th Amphib Tank Battalion3 G, e6 W/ o  i
111th Regimental Combat Team0 c- }2 `/ ^; a+ y! z; s0 o5 P
706th Tank Battalion9 a  e7 f; @6 Z8 C+ N; |: i
2nd Marine Regiment# d$ h" A; w; l: n- v) B4 Z' l
V US Amphib Corps
III US Amphib Corps& Q3 l8 F1 a, V; ~2 N1 A
225th Artillery Grp 8 {2 B& ~) U% c, H

Defending units:3 Z+ P" }4 c# _4 x, l$ C
55th Naval Guard Unit- J5 S6 i0 U% q) r2 R
Yokosuka 1st SNLF
47th Ind.Mixed Brigade
9th Tank Regiment7 b) `8 \3 D7 \. I4 ]2 l. T. B; G: y
11th Ind. Engineer Regiment
Saipan Naval Fortress4 }" q( T" c" G# {) D
43rd Division
41st Naval Guard Unit7 l8 y$ g8 Y: I
3/4th Indpt Tank Co
III./9th Infantry Battalion7 o, p" i+ N% v( Z" B7 @7 l- W( V
150th Infantry Regiment3 `- b; {8 T8 V# q  S* V
28th Ind.Mixed Brigade
16th Shipping Engineer Regiment3 Z1 X8 i# ^0 q
5th Special Base Force
31st Army
7th Ind. Engineer Regiment) [4 F. q( R5 G% U" ?2 h- z
25th Field AA Machinecannon Company4 y: U' ]+ q$ L9 f: y1 k7 o
10th JNAF AF Unit $ k% U5 W7 Z  ~8 k$ ?+ v) r

塞班岛战役比我想象的要简单，我估计每天40多架重轰在鬼子头上下蛋蛋，虽然没有弄死几个人，但是对鬼子的士气估计有巨大的影响。

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RE:塞班岛被我盟军占领了，下一步就是清剿岛上的日军残部了。

塞班岛被我盟军占领了，下一步就是清剿岛上的日军残部了。

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  今天是45年1月2日，盟军修整了2天，今天发动猛攻。
Ground combat at Saipan (108,93)

Allied Shock attack
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Attacking force 52097 troops, 1148 guns, 1121 vehicles, Assault Value = 2042

Defending force 24884 troops, 208 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 530

Allied adjusted assault: 1418
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Japanese adjusted defense: 157
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Allied assault odds: 9 to 1
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Combat modifiers; n3 M4 ^* S/ F  ?! z
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)& U& e. R# E2 W0 l3 g" _: q$ ^
Attacker: shock(+). G2 Y& W6 m' M
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Japanese ground losses:
   5054 casualties reported" j/ Y1 x/ e/ q
      Squads: 153 destroyed, 28 disabled$ \, f- v, u% I5 A
      Non Combat: 261 destroyed, 79 disabled" I- U5 Y! l+ _+ C3 y+ a3 [
      Engineers: 4 destroyed, 25 disabled. Q% ]- V  C% H" h8 c) j
   Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
   Vehicles lost 20 (16 destroyed, 4 disabled)3 W5 c, |: x7 Z; k0 C, g, o* K+ _1 ]
   Units destroyed 2* O6 N1 T( W8 J3 ]# `
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Allied ground losses:4 E5 k2 S- ]; h
   1837 casualties reported
      Squads: 9 destroyed, 111 disabled8 b1 O- [* m4 v
      Non Combat: 27 destroyed, 208 disabled
      Engineers: 1 destroyed, 30 disabled
   Vehicles lost 76 (19 destroyed, 57 disabled)" x/ V% J% i5 a/ F% K
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Assaulting units:3 K) h/ e) a* {6 @. L
3rd Marine Division
111th Regimental Combat Team
77th Infantry Division% V, _" i  q; Z: N
23rd Marine Regiment" O* q! Z' a6 k8 v' T1 j! d
98th Infantry Division
25th Marine Regiment
24th Marine Regiment, P+ ^  M6 c. H; Z6 \
708th Amphib Tank Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion# x/ s; d. j5 u2 p6 M+ u
706th Tank Battalion- y$ q4 I/ v' v) u* z/ ^
6th Marine Regiment! s. h% P" a1 a) U
2nd Marine Regiment
225th Artillery Grp
V US Amphib Corps; n$ n: B  e6 K) w+ d! i) _
III US Amphib Corps
109th USN Naval Construction Battalion
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Defending units:$ h/ t' O& ~% |6 i) u9 t8 G* H  Q
150th Infantry Regiment
41st Naval Guard Unit2 j; f5 b# u# A# x& Y
9th Tank Regiment
III./9th Infantry Battalion
Saipan Naval Fortress
55th Naval Guard Unit
43rd Division, B9 B  ~3 Y# e) j. I. P: d7 P
3/4th Indpt Tank Co 0 Q( y* V, \6 o6 N3 ^( e
11th Ind. Engineer Regiment, Q5 x# ?+ L* V2 i
Yokosuka 1st SNLF, N/ [5 G) l0 Z9 h2 S! a
47th Ind.Mixed Brigade
28th Ind.Mixed Brigade
31st Army
25th Field AA Machinecannon Company
7th Ind. Engineer Regiment
5th Special Base Force
16th Shipping Engineer Regiment
10th JNAF AF Unit 1 [$ p$ p# I2 Q# l

  看来鬼子缺失补给后，战斗力弱了许多啊。. k3 {) [2 k) y' Y1 k
今天第一次用AE给舰队补给AA弹，很顺利，蛮高兴。看来只要是到了45年就可以使用AE军火船了。

我先发帖询问空袭效果，现在我明白了，先日军躲在5级的防御工事里，我空袭效果很差，现在日军被我盟军赶到野地里了，现在空袭效果好多了。Morning Air attack on 47th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 108,93 (Saipan); T# F8 d3 {8 B6 w

Weather in hex: Light cloud8 M% D2 K' g' J' N$ a& i/ C3 ~$ D' r

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.# U/ c# x0 [5 V2 m% c
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
   A6M2 Sen Baku x 11) }5 F8 f, _8 f
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Allied aircraft
   B-24J Liberator x 9
   F4U-1 Corsair x 27. H8 b  G2 W. L& R$ Z$ k4 Z2 g, d
   F6F-3 Hellcat x 59
   PB4Y-1 Liberator x 21

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Japanese aircraft losses0 u& U+ L  ]( I
   A6M2 Sen Baku: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses4 P4 u2 d8 i" I2 w8 B
   B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged: v, M, U  H3 }* p; D* y
   PB4Y-1 Liberator: 2 damaged7 L3 o- i9 M& K8 R/ d. A

Japanese ground losses:
   60 casualties reported; _( x' n+ N. W$ ?' b! M
      Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
      Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
      Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled! W# W. X) G/ K% }$ u# n
Morning Air attack on 5th Special Base Force, at 108,93 (Saipan)

Weather in hex: Light cloud8 a  @" q) R0 l3 I5 e- e

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.# Y& _1 N: T' H& {+ G2 q4 H' B9 \
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes/ F# P& ^6 M! S- f6 W

Japanese aircraft
   A6M2 Sen Baku x 3# J/ o7 `$ ?8 i

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Allied aircraft
   B-24J Liberator x 11
   F6F-3 Hellcat x 534 H8 R- s4 d' j$ Z4 B% R. v
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Japanese aircraft losses
   A6M2 Sen Baku: 1 destroyed5 |3 U8 ~2 `  G6 s: h7 }  i6 G
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No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:; L% E0 D4 |& R+ ^0 G9 J: M
   23 casualties reported
      Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
      Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled& ]) @( I# w$ ^& J% F. f7 l

两次空袭造成日军83人受伤，以前就伤几个人是天壤之别啊。

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ak49

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咋修改帖子的标题，我看见大猫和酷猪和我打时候帖子标题根据战况随时可以修改的，怎么弄？

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自己明白了，

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嘿嘿

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12日，攻击。
Ground combat at Saipan (108,93)
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Allied Shock attack
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Attacking force 64554 troops, 1359 guns, 1387 vehicles, Assault Value = 2525  ~1 W! m% F) ~& q

Defending force 10360 troops, 139 guns, 37 vehicles, Assault Value = 52
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Allied adjusted assault: 1801

Japanese adjusted defense: 3
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Allied assault odds: 600 to 1 & d# }8 `( m- _0 _: v7 A( A

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)$ S+ K) V" v) ~: a6 u4 k" d: a
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)3 y; T5 ]- v% s  {9 W8 J* ^; y
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Japanese ground losses:
   12353 casualties reported+ E) f6 i# n; s' C9 ~
      Squads: 194 destroyed, 5 disabled- y4 _9 e% n+ {! K. B
      Non Combat: 1028 destroyed, 47 disabled
      Engineers: 55 destroyed, 4 disabled; I) J  @$ B( H, ]- O4 T& T( G
   Guns lost 175 (175 destroyed, 0 disabled)* v4 P& ?; {- N" B6 T% Q% z5 J
   Vehicles lost 38 (38 destroyed, 0 disabled)+ z+ E" X, U! p' ]
   Units destroyed 97 G, }, x. F/ E6 ~4 H  ?5 z

13日盟军休整一天。
14日最后的攻击开始了。Ground combat at Saipan (108,93)" y& G5 u+ `# {2 `
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Allied Shock attack
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Attacking force 65140 troops, 1359 guns, 1389 vehicles, Assault Value = 2562
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Defending force 1482 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7- k: b: }, d* E- Q* ]
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Allied adjusted assault: 3086

Japanese adjusted defense: 1
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Allied assault odds: 3086 to 1 ( n/ L5 g; [  j# F* i

Combat modifiers3 W+ E, ~  Y5 I" e
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), experience(-)# M2 q2 k+ q3 _7 Y! o* l$ }$ R; T
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)$ o( t8 A/ L2 k% ^( k' j
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Japanese ground losses:
   1867 casualties reported
      Squads: 28 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Non Combat: 214 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Engineers: 12 destroyed, 0 disabled8 r! W/ O& Z( ~9 V& }
   Guns lost 17 (17 destroyed, 0 disabled)
   Units destroyed 1  G+ M) B% }; Y: z# @' ?. z
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Allied ground losses:; s! l0 I& o* k$ D+ W2 Y3 X
   7 casualties reported
      Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled# [* c8 y- s: T  T
      Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled/ V$ ^; V& Y( J, P
      Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

到现在为止，塞班岛的日军全部消灭了，本档也结束了。* D; B. w; f1 |: n6 q2 O' z
最后祝大家玩的开心。最后点数是6800:1200盟军大胜

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